Rocky Marciano vs Oscar Bonavena

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then why did Mcvey post it?

    What evidence do you have that he didn't? They were in talks...that is public knowledge.
     
  2. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    Well, he didn't actually consult me, so you'll have to ask him that.
    That's not how it works. If you want to claim something happened, you need to have some evidence of it. If I say that Frankie Daniels was fired as Marciano's sparring partner for being too rough, it's not enough for me to say, "Well, you can't prove it didn't happen."
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Post it now please.With my name on it.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I posted a series of videos about Marciano ,that doesn't mean I agree with all their content!
    So don't take it as an implied endorsement from me to bolster up your argument.
     
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  5. ProVallone

    ProVallone New Member Full Member

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    You must have read AJ Lieblings description of the Moore-Valdez fight, he used that phrase in his book the Sweet Science
     
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  6. newurban99

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    You nailed me.
     
  7. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I had that image in my mind but forgot it came from Liebling. Guilty!
     
  8. mcvey

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    What evidence do you have that they did? Since you are making the claim ,the onus is on you to produce proof.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

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    So you post information that you know to be factually incorrect?

    I'll let that speak for itself
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I already did, and you know this. If you want me to post it again, please tell me how many times before you will acknowledge that you did so I can do it all at once.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

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    Well no, at some point it swings the other way. I posted an article the other day in which they talked about being in talks with Valdez, so it seems that there probably were some negotiations.
     
  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano was an explosive brawler with a high workrate in his prime, and evolved into a swarmer later into his career due to having reoccurring back injuries and having less desire to train.

    Also on a side note, swarmers can beat people who are larger and stronger than them. Oscar Bonavena couldn't box well and had poor ring in. Marciano actually had a functional defense and good inside fighting skills. Bonavena wouldn't be able to abuse his size against someone as good as Marciano.
     
  13. mcvey

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    No,I posted a series of videos for the interest of the forum.I don't have to concur with every opinion in them and I don't.

    Now you are either trolling or dense.

    To my knowledge there are zero primary sources confirming ANY title shot offer to Valdes from Marciano's team.

    If you have a verified source to the contrary ,produce it,otherwise stop talking **** and trying to pass it off a confirmation of a title offer.
     
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "Talked about being in talks" .WTF does that mean?
    Provide a primary source that there was ever a verified serious offer to Valdes for a title shot made by Marciano's team?
     
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  15. janitor

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    We probably have to take our lead from both men's records.

    Bonavena gave some great fighters competitive fights, but his resume is a bit thin in terms of elite wins.

    Marciano was the all conquering Roman, against what could be fielded against him at the time.

    Realistically you are going to make Marciano the betting favorite.
     
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