Rocky Marciano vs RJJ

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  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those 3 you speak of were past their best
     
  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I don't. Frazier was a lot faster and had better defense.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

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    Frazier was faster and slightly better defensively, but he's still not close to Roy's speed. How about George Foreman? Foreman was slower than Marciano.
     
  4. White Bomber

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    Of course Frazier ain't close to Roy's speed, few are. But Frazier is still fast enough, and therefore can land.
    As for Foreman, he was very strong, had a great chin and he's among the top 5 punchers of all time. Not to mention he's way bigger than Marciano and has a reach advantage.
    Foreman only needs a few glancing blows to do damage.
    Roy ain't beating Foreman.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

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    So Marciano can't beat Roy because he's too slow but other slow fighters can? Seems like a pretty consistent criteria.
     
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    Marciano usually took a while to get warmed up and dialled in, and those rounds will be hairy against RJJ. However I'd expect a slow and then dramatic shift in momentum at around the 6 round mark. Marciano's cumulative damage often slowed guys down, and when they did slow down the result wasn't pretty. RJJ with his iffy chin isn't going to last 12 and certainly not 15.
     
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  7. White Bomber

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    Marciano's isn't just too slow, he's also small, with a small reach, and not very skilled.
     
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    Moore was on his best streak of his career and the other two were coming off two consecutive excellent wins. Maybe not prime but good enough.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

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    Now I feel like your trolling
     
  10. White Bomber

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    Everything I said is literally a fact, so how am I trolling ?!
    I said he's small, which he is for a HW. He wasn't very tall (around 5.10) and he didn't weigh much either (185-190 lbs).
    I said he has a small reach, which again it's a fact, not my opinion.
    I said he's not very skilled, which can be seen on film.
     
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  11. Gazelle Punch

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    He’s extremely skilled. You think some guy can walk off the street unskilled with a tiny reach knock out everyone and defend the title several times before retiring? Listening to yourself? Lol cmon your smarter then that. Extremely skilled defensively, extremely skilled at closing off a ring and cuttting the gap, great counter puncher, good at feints, power in both hands, great stamina these are some of his obvious skills. There’s a reason he was never knocked out and could speak well when he was done. I don’t understand what some of you watch on film.
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    Rocky is one of the best ever at closing the gap and cutting off the ring. You can't be slow, unathletic, small, short and unskilled at the same time with his resume.
     
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