Rocky Marciano vs the 80s heavyweights.

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I assume you are teasing. Two can play at that game.


who amongst the inexperienced youngsters from the 1980s contenders and belt holders was "Quicker and more Athletic" than the Ezzard Charles who Rocky fought? ... David Bey?

Who was "more skilled defensively" than Archie Moore from that 1980s bunch..Tex Cobb?

Feel free to contribute sensibly.

 

no, theres no such absolutes.

aggregate abilities and skills of the boxing population will develop or erode in any given time to fit the circumstances.

 

Why don't you give Abe Simon the credit he deserves, punk. You think that 30 somethign year old man dancing around and knocking out all those Champions and contenders was prime? I got news for you, Simon was the only one who faced the real deal. I'm talking the prime Jersey Joe Walcott who worked at the docks all night who didn't have a trainer and only laced gloves up on the weekend...now that was a prime Walcott!

 

But Mongoose,

That one special meal Walcott had prior to facing Simon gave Walcott a feeling of energy he never had before. That special meal was a half of a old potato. The meal gave Walcott so much energy, that Walcott did not even need to eat anything else for the past 36 hours prior to the fight other than that half of a potato. I hear it gave him the same amount of energy three square meals would. It made him feel stronger than a steak with fresh vegetables would.

 

He was a speed dealing, well-balanced ectomorph?

 

Based on the way you guys describe him, you would think he was no better than Spider Rico.

Tell me, how could this slow, skilless, clumsy, short, midget armed oaf look so great on film?

 

He was a beast. I like his chances against any sub-200 pounder. I even think he would sneak out some wins against decent super heavies... However, if he fought a career exclusively against the guys who are around today, he would break down even quicker than he did in the 1950's... and I don't think he would ever get to the very top at heavy.

 

Limited competition. He mostly beat up on unskilled nobodies; his biggest wins were all against aging, over-the-hill fighters (who were mostly career light-heavies). He never faced the combination of athleticism, size, and skill that modern heavyweights bring.

Would love to have seen him against some of the top light-heavies and cruisers of the era though. Keep in mind that even those guys (with the exception of Qawi) would still be significantly bigger and more athletic than him.

 

Who did pre 1970? No one

Who is going to be a bigger challenge at light-h/cruiser than Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore?

 

I agree, Walcott had seen better days, untrained and starving, slaving on the docks, truely a force in the ring every weekend.



And no way Marciano is beating MW stomach ulcer Moore. That bean pole who couldn't digest food was surely the best version.

 

Those must be the better days, they keep saying Walcott saw. I have to agree, no way Marciano is beating that prime beast.

 

Marciano would be a bigger man in the late 20th century,, but would aslo carry forward superior skills (as well as some inferior ones) to 80s hws

 

Based on what?

He didn't have any debilitating childhood illness. He wasn't malnourished (look at his mother, that family ate well)... He just didn't have the genes to be "bigger"... I travel Abruzzo and southern Italy every couple years... those folks are not large people.

 

7?

You mean 4-4 1/2 years earlier?
Math not your best subject?