Rocky marciano vs the future champions

Patterson -ko late on
Johanson -ko late
Liston - points loss
Clay (first Ali) - points loss
Frazier - draw
Foreman - early stoppage either way
Ali(70s) - unfair question, should be prime or nothing
Norton and Leon Spinks(to me they were not champs) - pointswin over norton or spinks
Holmes - points loss to holmes
Tyson - stopped early by tyson, or some chance it goes the other way
Holyfield -points loss
Bowe - draw
Lewis - points loss
Vitali - tko late on
Wladimir - ko early on

 

He beats Patterson, Leon and Johanson.

He loses to the rest, most badly.

 

I prefer matching him against people his own size if you're not allowing him extra weight.

 

Beats Patterson
Beats Info
Loses to Liston
Loses to Ali
Loses to Frazier
Loses to Foreman
Loses to Holmes
Loses to Tyson
Beats Holyfield unless you let Holyfield add bulk and not let Marciano add bulk (not sure why anyone would do that in a fantasy fight tbh)
Loses to Bowe
Loses to Lewis
Loses to Vitali
Loses to Wlad

 

Holyfield and Rocky have both weighed 190 on fight night.

If you're allowing Holy an extra 20 pound of muscle I'd allow Rocky the same to keep it even.

If Rocky and Holy are the same weight I favour Rocky to beat him.

 

How do you know Rocky would be fat?

 

Beats Patterson by KO
Beats Ingo by KO
Beats Liston by KO
Loses to 60's Ali by points
Beats Frazier by KO
Beats 70's Ali by points (loses rematches by points)
Loses to Foreman by KO
Beats Holmes by points
Loses to Tyson by KO
Beats Holyfield by KO
Beats Bowe by KO
Beats Lewis by KO
Beats Vitali by KO
Beats Wlad by KO

 

Dude, seriously. This is why people can't take Marcianistas seriously.

 

My goal is accuracy.

He was one of the best punchers of all time. 160lb Golovkin punching harder than top 10 HW contenders should make you take a step back and reassess your narrow criteria of what qualities are the most important.

 

Patterson- 6th rd knockout
Johanson- 5th rd knockout
Liston- losses on cuts late or knockouts liston out in the 8th
Clay (first Ali)- Catches Ali by the 7th rd
Frazier- Knocks Frazier out by the 10th in a pretty hard war
Foreman- Marciano UD (Foreman wasn't really a fighter who threw punches you couldn't see coming)
Ali(70s)- Ali UD in a pretty close fight
Norton and Leon Spinks(to me they were not champs)- Marciano knockout by 6th
Holmes - I honestly believe Marciano would give Holmes trouble and stop him in the 12th rd. Hard fight to choose though
Tyson - Knocks him out late
Holyfield- Marciano UD
Bowe- Tough fight again, similar to the Holmes fight but I still have to go with Marciano same rd
Lewis- Lewis UD
Vitali - knockout 10th rd
Wladimir - Knockout 5th rd

 

This is Rocky 3lb away from 190
http://www.gettyimages.com/license/157457618

 

Rocky has weighed as much as 193 in his prime. Why does Combat continue to ignore things he's been corrected on in other threads?

Of the three times I know off the top of my head that Rocky came in over 190, it was against larger physical fighters, two of which were 220 plus.

The only larger man he didn't come in heavy for was Joe Louis, who he used lots of movement against. I think if Rocky was faced with a gauntlet of larger brawlers and not LaStarza, Charles..types...he would come in over 190 more frequently.

And all this talk of him suddenly becoming a blob if he goes over 190 is absolute non-sense.

Rocky at 193...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/c4/1c/6dc41cbfe1f58156353b4bc5717fdfc8.jpg

http://www.rockymarciano.net/images/photogallery/rocky5.jpg

Not much difference between the pics of him at 185-189. Because it's only 4-9 ****ing pounds on a heavyweight.