Rocky Marciano vs these 4 boxing movers

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    IMHO Gene Tunney would have a chance to win on points and the others would lose to Rocky.
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, if Tunney could avoid Dempsey he could avoid Marciano,,maybe.
     
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  3. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Mixed up Tommy Farr and Loughran.
    Beats Pastor and Farr, loses to Conn and Tunney.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Beats Conn, Pastor and Farr but loses to Gene
     
  5. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tunney would beat him theres a higher chance he goes 0-4 than 4-0. Probably goes 1-3 or 2-2. Pastors the only one I'd favor Marciano to beat.
     
  6. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    You rank Farr over Pastor h2h?
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Marciano was lethal against 175-200 pound men. I would favor Rocky over all of them, even Tunney. But Tunney has the best chance of the bunch.
     
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  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Pastor LOL. Can’t think of an opponent more tailor made for Marciano.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    yikes.

    Marciano is the rings ultimate animal against men under 190lb and would massacre any older generation fighters who used the St Paul boxing style
     
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  10. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    I think he would be a threat to anyone around that weight and below, I don't share the sentiment of calling him the mini Liston of boxing to compensate for not favoring him against heavier men.
    33 year old Charles who was on the cusp of being washed up (1956 Charles was just awful), 38 year old Walcott, 40 year old Moore and Don Cockell are not the pinacle of the sub 200 lbs.
    Considering that Billy Conn was beating up a guy for 12 rounds who was Marciano's superior in every aspect makes me think that not only could he replicate that type of performance against Marciano, but Marciano would not be able to turn the tables around the way Louis did.
    Conn's best win at HW matches Marciano's best. Knocking out a prime Pastor is nothing to scoff at, Bob would be the best or second best scalp on Marciano's resume had he fought him.

    Tunney is pretty self explanatory. Terrific jab/cross, great legs, tied up immediately on the inside and twice dominated a guy who was close enough to Marciano.
     
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  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beat me to it. Generally, I do not hold Marciano in high regard for head-to-head.
     
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  12. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Don't get me wrong, Conn and Tunney would have the lumps to show they were in a fight afterwards, but I don't agree with the logic of overcompensating for undervaluing Rocky against heavier guys so as to call him the crusher of practically everybody around and below his weight.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    KOing a prime Pastor isn't anything to scoff at, you're correct. But you can still reasonably favor the versions of Charles, Walcott or Moore to beat Pastor in his prime.
     
  14. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Sure, same as you can reasonably favor Pastor to beat each one of them decisively.
    Charles lost to Layne, Valdez, Johnson and Walcott between 1952 and 1954.
    Walcott lost to Layne.
    Pastor at the end of his career beat Bivins who beat younger versions of Moore and Charles. Prime Pastor would give all three of these guys a run for their money.
     
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  15. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not by a lot but generally yeah.
     
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