You ever done steds? They might not make you skilled, but they'll make up for a lack of it. Marciano would've been a ****ing beast on a Tren, Deca and D-bol stack. Would've punched a house from the foundations.
Competed against plenty who did them. Marciano would never overcome the gifts that God did not give him and that no amount of juice could provide him, He was a tiny, slow-twitch athlete with no balance or rhythm. He got by in an era of small, old men and underwhelming up and comers.
Furys feather fists arent stoping Rocky from coming forward. Rocky will be relentless going to the body and arms of Fury non stop throughout the entire fight. Fury has never dealt with a relentless pressure fighter with the power, stamina and sheer will of Marciano, as the fight progresses the massive volume of body punches really start to take a toll on Fury and its just too much to handle. Rocky KO 10
If Fury was from the same bloodline, ancestry and religion as Marciano a few on here would be changing their usernames.
To some it up, you don't know **** about boxing. You've highlighted Chisroa's best moments where Fury rolled most the punches away FFS as a 'weakness'. It's also laughably you're highlighting Fury's supposed defensive flaws when you're talking about Marciano who was far easier to hit, especially in this type of match up. It's also highly amusing you think the slow Marciano is landing 'leaping left hands' and 'overhand rights' - 2 of the hardest punches to land in boxing while overcoming near a foot in height and reach. When did Marciano turn into Roy Jones? And I don't even think RJJ can unload those punches against Fury because of the size difference. RJJ being the same size as Marciano, but with more reach. Marciano is a LHW at best by modern standards, who's management were scared of a blown up cruserweight by modern standards. Because Cunningham and Valdes are the same size. You highlight the knockdown against Cunningham who was much much bigger than Marciano but other than that Fury dominated that fight. Then you ignore Marciano also got knocked down by and went life and death with old cruserweights. So what's going to happen SHW punches? Because Marciano hasn't set foot in the real HW division. Cunningham and Chisora are way bigger guys than Marciano's management ever let him get in the ring with.
Maybe because valuev is around 7'0. And not only taller but much bigger overall because he was a giant literally?
Yes small men who aren't very good get beat by very good big men. A good big un beats a good little un. Always been that way. And Fury has more skill than Marciano, nevermind the size advantages.
I love Marciano, but really this is one of those occasions when size is significant. Nearly 12” in height and 80 pounds weight advantage! I mean if Fury was just an unskilled oaf Rocky would probably prevail but Fury is a skilled operator with a high ring IQ. He’d use all his physical advantages, plus his skill to win a wide UD, or stop a beaten up Rocky late.
Marciano was not lacking speed or balance or skill for the way he fought. He was highly successful the way he was. Surely Performance enhancing drugs would enhance his performances though.
You really need to educate yourself on Rocky's style. He was an expert at leaping left hooks: This content is protected The point of me bringing up key moments in Cunningham and chisora's fights arent to pretend like they won, it's to show that at MULTIPLE times in Fury's career he has shown lax defense and got nailed or bullied by guys using strategies Rocky would be using. It's an observable fact he was very easy to hit to the body, that his punches can be very pawing or arm punches that lack snap or power, and that he backs up in a straight line with leaky defense and horrible inside fighting ability. It's observable that his uppercut is garbage. Do you have evidence to the contrary? Rocky is a far better boxer than those two so why is the comparison ridiculous? Both Fury and Rocky are undefeated so i have to find opponents who have somewhat similar styles to each other to break down a hypothetical fight. You wouldn't use the 6'6 gunshy jab and grab Wladmir to prove how Fury would do against a 5'11 pressure fighting Rocky would you? Yes Rocky was dropped by fighters who would be cruiserweights today but they were also both more skilled and harder punchers than Fury. I have never seen a super heavyweight like Fury who has decent skill and a lot of weight and yet is feather fisted with barely any noteworthy stoppages. Rocky was never stopped and got off the floor to win those fights, he wasn't on wobbly legs or in serious trouble. Again I ask for an example of Fury's so called punching power? Weight doesn't automatically mean you have serious power. Fury used a very questionable stiff arm tactic to get a sneaky and dirty ko over a 36 year old Cunningham whose C level any way. He stopped Chisora on his feet due to swelling and he stopped wilder on his feet--a guy who was barely throwing, retreating and clinching constantly after being hit by a very questionable shot to the ear that destroyed his balance. That's it, those are the only 3 noteworthy stoppages of Fury. He hasn't stopped a single prime heavyweight with skill.
Tell us in what way they would. Can they Make him quicker? More durable? Stop him from getting cut? Make him more skilled?
Neither did Marciano, in fact he never got in the ring with one! Fury doesn't rely on punching power,he relies on hitting you more times than you are going to hit him. Get inside on him and he ties you upas he did Chisora who is considerably bigger than Marciano. Fury would be tossing Rocky around,he is just too SMALL it isn't a reflection on his greatness, its just the basic truth! Rocky isn't koing Fury, he would not land enough punches to wear him down and single shots wont turn the trick he proved that when he got up from Wilders punches. This leaves one other option he must win a decision by applied pressure coming forward throwing non stop.Fury will be jabbing him and looping those arm shots into his face before Rocky is even near him.Fury is not a banger but when a 270lbs man hits one 90lbs lighter ,the smaller guy is going to feel it!Rocky was knocked down by 2 guys both good punchers one was 37 and192lbs the other was 38/40 and 188lbs what they did Fury can duplicate.
You are implying that I don’t know anything about boxing aren’t you? We both know steroids won’t make a non participant into a great boxer. But an already great fighter will be enhanced by performance enhancing drugs in just the same way as every fighter who was punished for cheating. That’s why it’s called “performance enhancing”. It won’t give you the performance. It will enhance what is already great.
It is funny because there are people who think that if a fighter is not considered a puncher FOR his HUGE SIZE then automatically guys who are around 80 pounds lighter considered punchers (FOR THEIR SIZE )will hit harder than the much bigger guy, it is a joke. I am sure that h2h fury hits harder than archie moore. 100% sure. Can you imagine Fury facing lhws and small cruisers? He would look like foreman. Bob Foster was a killer puncher hitting lhws but among hws he could not break an egg. I doubt that Julian jackson weighing 154 pounds could hit harder than Ali with a right hand with full power . pfp is one thing and h2h a different one. Ali hitting mws would be the ko king.
