Rocky Marciano vs ?

I never said 230lb, but 205lb is respectable.

 

Yep, you got it.

 

I was referring to title defences

 

Marciano Fans,

Educate me.

I have now seen Rocky's last fight against Moore.

Tell me your impressions of Rocky's performance in this fight.

Good, average, bad?

 

What film of marciano have you watched in his prime?

 

Any peticular reason why you keep watching the 1955 rocky marciano? you know the the aging 32 year old slower rocky marciano? May i suggest watching the younger fresher fire in his belly fast rocky marciano of the joe louis fight in 1951 or the rex layne fight, or the kid mathews fight 1952.



Rocky marcianos defense and workrate in the moore fight were oustanding.....however marciano's handspeed had diminished, he was starting to slow down physically.....overall good performance at that stage of his career but not one of his better ones.

 

here ya go yancey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qujgVDSZwZI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP3UManJNsw




the 2 fights however i really want you to look at with marciano thats not on youtube are marciano vs louis and marciano vs walcott I


think want you want of the man yancy, i could give two shits what you think. I have my opinion of marciano and no one will change that.

 

Thanks, SuzieQ, for giving me the links. BTW, I just learned today what SuzieQ stands for....I've been thinking up until then that you were a lady boxing expert, really.

I've already seen the SuzieQ right hand of Rocky's that finished Walcott in their first fight. I agree it was a beautifully timed, crusher of a punch. One of the most devastating KOs of all-time.

I've also just watched the 2 rounds against Kid Matthews and rounds 1, 5, and 6 against Layne.

My impressions, and these are my honest to God real impressions with no axe to grind, and I could be wrong....

Marciano-Layne round 1 remind me of Quarry-Frazier I round one. I just don't see Rocky as having the relentless, bobbing , weaving forward pressure that Frazier could put on. Rocky to me seems to be much more of a head hunter than Frazier, and in all honesty, he makes some wild swings. Frazier's work rate seemed busier than Rocky's, and to the body more.

I read some of the youtube comments and one stands out to me. "Marciano was a product of his era." I think Nat Fleischer, for whatever you all think about him, had Rocky 10th in the all-time rankings, and I suspect that is not far wrong.

No offense to Rocky intended, and may he RIP, but I honestly just can't see him beating Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, or Lewis.
Just can't.

He does have something that none of the others have, though, with the undefeated record.

Good for him.

 

Such ignorant out and out bias. :-(

 

Decent post.

If you had asked me 10 years ago what my opinion of the man as a fighter was, I'd have snorted something contemptuous. I didn't rate him highly.
Then, a few years ago I got to doing more in-depth research, analysing videos, reading books etc. I've since come away with a whole new respect for him.

Whether one rates him as a fighter or not, you have to give him credit for his accomplishments, and for being a real champion outside of the ring too. He really cared about the championship and what it stood for. He knew the significance of the title.

Maybe his legend as a fighter is a bit overblown; he certainly wasn't unbeatable as his record would suggest. But in the proving ground of the 50's heavyweight landscape, he proved his worth. He gave heavyweight boxing an excitement that hadn't been seen since Louis, and would not be seen again before Ali. He gave us some great moments and one of the best knockouts of all time. Despite all the naysayers he became a success, and left a record that so far has stood the test of time.

Outside of the ring, he was a friendly, humble guy. Just one of the boys really. He used to feel embarrased for taking money for guest appearances, until someone reminded him who he was!
Sure, the image makers of the 50's tried hard to project that "family man" image upon him, but the core values were there anyway.
In today's climate, where many champions view their title as commodities and where many act like a pack of street thugs, it's good to know that at one time, this was not so; that the champion acted like one at all times.

So, for me, it really doesn't matter how he'd stack up to other heavyweights in different eras. What he did in his own is enough.

 

Yancy you must understand that is because marciano had his own style......he got low in his crouch and rolled,dipped, slipped punches. he was very effectivle in his crouch.......slowly but surely tracking his opponent and methodically moving in before unleading a library full of bonecrushers.

both frazier and rock had their own style, and made the best out of it. you bring up Nat Fleischer quote, i respect him alot but his opinions are very off. for instance he rates bob fitzimmons a 165lber # 3 rated heavyweight of all time, do you really believe this?? In my own personel opinion marciano was far from a product of his era


- btw what did you think of that one punch right hand knockout of layne, pretty nasty punch huh? made layne legs turn to jelly

Try to check out walcott vs marciano I and louis vs marciano when you have a chance, two very exciting fights and his best ones

 

No, only his hair became invisible.

 

You took a gander at the absolute worst performance of his career.