Rocky Marciano... who did he NOT face?

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  1. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano is often criticized for possessing a 'slim' resume. This probably emanates from two causes:

    1. The general strength of the era (1949-1955)
    2. Rocky's decision to retire early.

    But was there anybody whom the Rock did not fight while he was active? Marciano beat Louis, Charles, Walcott, Moore, LaStarza, Savold and Layne. So, who is missing from the list?

    Maybe Bob Baker and Nino Valdes. These two fighters fought in 1955, and the winner was supposed to get a shot at Marciano's title. Rocky retired the following year. Tommy Hurricane Jackson was rising in the mid 50s. The hard punching Bob Satterfield was another prospect.

    Who else?
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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  3. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    While Bob Baker and Nino Valdes were supposed to get the shot,Nino somehow just got greedy and tried to fight Archie Moore as a tune up(Archie was the one tuning up instead),idk about Baker
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Marciano did a lot with his time as I have come to read often is that he missed Valdez "because" of Moore and he was done after Moore, I believe it's been said and written Marciano couldn't be bothered for Ol Arch but he felt the people would say he'd not defeated his greatest challenger and he was.
     
  5. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson
     
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  6. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harold Johnson beat several standout HWs of the era including Charles & Valdes. Would've been interesting to see him fight Rocky IMO.
     
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  7. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    Patterson rarely fought at heavyweight when Rocky was active. He only debuted in 1955 and crushed three cans.
     
  8. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Marciano crushes Patterson as soon as he gets to Floyd's chin.

    This is a woman who loves Floyd and got his autograph back in te 90s saying this. Floyd was always one of my favorites.

    Still. They did not fight.
     
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  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You specify while he was active, which in my eyes means when he was champion.

    As far as I am concerned he can fight whoever he wants when he is just a contender.

    The two strongest contenders that he missed in my opinion were Nino Valdez and Bob Baker.

    If you then wand to cast the net further, men like Dan Bruceroni, Earl Walls and Clarence Henry would have ben viable challengers.

    Bottom line, unless he is going to be a significantly more active champion, I can't see how he could have done much better.
     
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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    His stay among the elite of his era was right at 4 years, from Layne to Moore, and it was an era depleted by the war, with holdovers from earlier days or lighter classes realizing the vacuum and making their plays. But clean it out what was left in this nadir he definitely did do.
     
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  11. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clarence Henrys a huge one. Baker, John Holman. Everyone who would have popped up in a year or two if he'd kept fighting.
     
  12. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah Moore engaged in an all out PR campaign to get Marciano to fight him otherwise Marciano was done after Cockell. If not for this Moore likely is considered a HW champion today it is one of the great miscalculations in boxing history.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no problem with his resume he fought alot of top contenders although it would've been nice to see him fight Baker or Valdez as Marciano never fought a real prime 200+ pound elite Heavyweight.

    My issue is people are too nostalgic and believe 5'10 67 inch 185 pound Heavyweight beats elite modern Heavyweights and that's just not realistic. He was great for his time but he would not be nearly as effective if he fought in any era past the 1950s.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Rereading the thread, I came across a claim that I always suspected but could never verify. Is it true that Holmes never fought his number one contender? If so, why is he commonly ranked at number 3 in heavyweight? I'd suspect this would disqualify him tbh
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Patterson was campaigning as a LHW, and not on the list.