Rocky Marciano with Ali's competition: Does he stay undefeated?

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  1. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    26-0 Marciano vs 26-0 Frazier would be better and more exciting than the thrilla
     
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  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The better question is does he stay alive.
     
  3. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    he had more of a style than Bonavena and higher ring IQ the way he would constantly stalk and press and gauge rhythm, Bonavena was tough as nails but more just basics and an inside brawler but stuck to those basics
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He could go undefeated with Ali's 60s opponents, with the arguable exception of Liston but those weren't the best versions of Liston.
     
  5. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    the right hand that almost killed Walcott vs the left hook that floored and beat Ali, both about equal on savage body shots, Marciano with maybe a slight advantage on uppercuts, both always pressing and never backing up, both looking to time and land their power shots every time the ref might separate them, but such great inside fighters that they probably wouldn't get separated that much, good enough chin and heart that even if they eat a couple of each other's power shots they're still getting up, Marciano has the potential to hurt Frazier when he's coming in a lot worse than Ali did, both have so much dog in them and the ability to bang in the deepest water
     
  6. mcvey

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    Liston
    Foreman
    Holmes
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He'd lose to Frazier and Foreman, that's a certainty imo.
     
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  8. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I give Floyd a chance, maybe a good chance. He might've chopped up the Rock with those swift hands.
     
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  9. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Sonny wouldn't need to chase Rocky. And nobody who ever stood and traded with Liston survived. Prime Sonny by KO.
     
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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    No way in hell he stays undefeated for multiple reasons styles size speed ect
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a good chance of that.
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, also if he tries to run the , Liston, Frazier, Foreman , Lyle ,Shavers gauntlet his career would be MUCH shorter.
     
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  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Rocky wouldn't make it, and IMO no one would make it.
    If a heavyweight champion was always in prime, and didn't age, we could still discuss this topic.
    Muhammad Ali's career lasted 21 years (1960-1981) with a break of just over 3 years. If someone had been boxing professionally for 20 years (and would have lost even before that), and then beat Holmes; It is impossible.
    If the scenario were to start boxing professionally at a very young age (like Canelo, for example) - he would lose at the beginning of his career.
     
  14. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Nobody, who ever boxed, could remain undefeated with that run of opponents over that timeline.
     
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