Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

That’s so interesting. Why do you think that is?

 

I think the above Marciano mindset has now well and truly spilled over to the Golovkin / RJJ threads.

 

Can do the same stunning boxrec research and make bs excuses for Mike Tyson, Foreman, and Earnie Shavers.

Fact is...every fighter faces opponents with bad records, are older, or supposedly froze up. Not every fighter nukes these type of opponents at the rate that these men did.

Tyson had 12 first round KOs. Most of these men were not very good fighters, outside of Spinks. Spinks froze against Tyson. Spinks was 31 and a light heavy at one time . Tysons only other Hall of Fame victim was 38.

Tyson is still rightfully considered a powerful puncher. You look foolish when you try to rewrite history with an obvious bias. Marciano and Tyson as strong knock out punchers is the status quo, these facts you are presenting are not some new revelations that would have challenged this idea.

 

I would like to publicly apologise to Reznik for my outburst the other day.
It was unjustified and unwarranted.

 

I disagree wholeheartedly. If someone comes out of the woodwork into a situation that has nothing to do with them, incorrectly accuse me, then proceed to bash me for something I didn't do, tell me to "Grow up doggy damn" and don't have the balls to apologize when proven wrong, I would have every right to lay into him.

Take down this post. You were completely in the right. You have absolutely nothing to apologize for.

 

It was you who presented the facts ie 11 ist round ko's by highlighting the records or in the case of two of them no records,I havent produced BS but facts and in doing so put these kos in perspective .
Two debutees,two who were really middles, and two who were light heavies. You want to compare them to Tyson's 1strounders? Fine lets do that.
Mercedes 0-3-0 200lbs Tyson's 1st fight.
Singleton1-3-0 198lbs His 2nd
Spain1-0-0 185lbs his 4th
Canady 3-0-0 200lbs His 7th
Johnson11-5-0 196lbs
Long 15-3-0 216lbs
Colay 7-7-1 224lbs
Benjamin5-6-1 227lbs
Richardson10-2-0 212lbs
Scaff13-6-0 250lbs
Young 9-6-0 207lbs
Jaco19-5-0 210lbs
Gross 18-4-0 218lbs
Hosea12-3-10 215lbs
Frazier16-1-0 211lbs
Spinks 21-0-0 212lbs
Williams 22-2-0 218lbs
Tillman20-4-0 215lbs
Stewart26-1-0 218lbs
Seldon33-3-0 229lbs
Saverese39-3-0 241lbs
Etienne24-1-1 223lbs
No middle weights, no debutees ,and no light heavies!
22 1st rd kos!
Lightest 185lbs only 2 others under 200lbs.
Only 3 with losing records.
Spinks was the lineal heavyweight champion and scaled 211lbs.
Seldon was number6
Williams was number 2

You're the one looking foolish now Fella!

 

I appreciate that man but no need! I apologize.
I agree with Swagalicious. I assessed your post wrong. All love.

 

Listen brother, any time you want to hash this out, I’ll get the kettle started. Until then relax, eat some bread, and chill out.

 

Someone seriously arguing that one round blow outs of debutees should be not only distinguished but valued less than one round blow outs of opponents with records of 0-3 and 1-0 is pretty foolish if you ask me.

From what I've seen in this thread alone is that ratings and records only matter when you want them to. Just as present weight vs. Past weight only matters when you want it to. (Ex...Spinks is 211 lb lineal HW Champion but Marciano's opponents are "blown up." )

You can't prescribe your criticisms evenly and fairly. So there is no point in debating such an obvious bias.

 

I will add this.


Because Marciano is a career HW I feel his power is getting unfairly measured against larger men. People seem to treat him like a 220 pound man routinely matched against smaller opponents.

For a fighter that weighed 178 pounds to 192 or so, Marciano seemed to have remarkablely effective power against men his own size or bigger to a degree...moreso than any fighter I can think of. Especially for not being a sharp accurate puncher.

Sure. Spinks was 212 lbs but Tyson was 218 lbs. Spinks was 14 lbs heavier than Walcott....but Rocky was 185 against Walcott's 198. I'm honestly more impressed with Rocky's one round KO over a much heavier opponent here. And I'm sure Walcott and Spinks were both intimidated and had places they would rather be....

 

Dont talk about evenly and fairly then say Spinks was a former light heavy he hadn't been one for 3 years! Tyson had 22 1strd kos not 12, and only 3 had losing records. two of Marciano's victims are listed as middleweights in box rec two as light heavies and two with no fights at all! Tyson was koing modern sized heavyweights in their prime not relics from the decade before.

You brought Tyson's name into the equation,not me!
Marciano was a heavyweight champion and as such he will be compared to other heavyweight champions.If you are implying he would be up against it fighting modern heavyweights I would agree with you,if you are saying its unfair to compare his power to modern big heavyweights I would then ask why you took up the cudgel to do that very thing?
Fact Marciano never beat a class 200lbs +heavyweight in his prime.
Fact Tyson routinely did so.
imo. You wouldnt recognize objectivity if you fell over it in the road!
Put me on ignore and save both of us some time!

 

I appreciate your backing Swag but with all this Virus **** going on in the world, life is just too short to let things like the above effect us.......of course, Chok & RockyJim are still fair game and valid targets.!

 

It's funny these haters continue to call Marciano a cruiserweight. No, he could have fought at 175 but had the balls to fight in the limitless division. That's a real heavyweight. These 220 pound oafs that boil down to 199 to avoid fighting in a real division would have gotten severe beatings at the hands of moore, Marciano, Walcott and charles

 

Dude you are the most aggressive and nasty poster on the forum, everything turns personal if people don't agree and you just insult and laugh at people. You are such a jerk.