Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Got the 16 names yet? I post facts not dirt.
    You keep posting false -hoods,I'm sure they are unintentional,but since you are too lazy to verify them,you really shouldn't get annoyed when I correct them.

    This is how it works'
    YOU make a statement,if someone says that is not true ,the onus is then on you to prove YOUR statement .
    Not THEM to disprove it.
    So far YOU haven't done that
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "No other punchers ever damaged his opponents the way Rocky did? Do you want a list of just heavyweights or pound for pound that did?
     
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  3. mcvey

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    eg Bob Fitzsimmons killed 2 fighters .
    Mad Pigeon posts with his heart ,not his head.
     
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  4. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Just another Dunning-Kruger forum clown, mcvey.
    • 49 fights
    • 45 opponents (he faced twice LaStarza, Walcott, Buonvino and Lowry)
    • 11 opponents (Epperson, Edwards, Weeks, Jackson, Evans, Haft, Louthis, Vingo Eatman, Buonvino and Savold) stopped boxing after facing him, 13 in total if we count Louis and Walcott


    As I mention - he made enough people quit and almost killed one (Vingo had a 50% chance of survival and was damaged for life). So yeah, fair percentage of damaged people one way or another. Damage and death are different, don't you know? Otherwise, it isn't a secret even lighter fighters happened to kill opponents, but it is not what I meant.
     
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  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Go check out the official National Boxing Association ratings. Go tell them how dishonest they were at the time.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sorry but ;
    Epperson1-1-0
    Edwards 0-0-0
    Weeks 0-1-0
    Jackson 4-2-0
    Did not retire because of the damage Marciano inflicted on them.
    And ,as I have explained old age retired , Louis,Savold and Walcott.
    That is 7 of your 13 removed.

    You are labouring under the delusion I am a Marciano hater ,far from it,
    I suggest you take the time to read my earlier posts.
    I am not a Marciano hater, but I am heartily sick of the hyperbole and outright BS that surfaces every time a thread involving him appears
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm referring to you ,not the NBA.
     
  8. MAD_PIGE0N

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    And you don't consider that the rest listed having more experience in boxing also stopped after facing him, so maybe he also made those beginners rethink boxing. Savold, Louis and Walcott, old or not, didn't retire before facing him, Walcott even had a rematch.

    While I agree about the hyperbole around any fighter is tiring, I don't see much of it around Rocky. Go check Usyk-related odes.
     
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  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think there was cause to defend the title against Nino within the nine month period he was logical contender …but he lost against Moore.

    they chose Cockell because out of the two challengers Don had sold well on the west coast. Should they have chose Nino? Maybe. But christonberry of the NBA stated there wasn’t much between nino and Cockell. Why should Marciano team get blamed when Cockell was good enough for the NBA?

    Yes Charles was the logical contender. And an ex champion. So that was right. Check out the latest official ratings before Rocky defended the title.


    Rocky Marciano, Champion
    Logical contender


    1. Ezzard Charles
    Outstanding boxers

    1. Nino Valdes
    2. Don Cockell
    3. Roland LaStarza






    Yes. The rematch should have been Ninos shot…but they took Charles because there was a demand for it.

    Lastarza was the number one contender not Nino Valdes. Check out the two most recent official rating ahead of the Lastarza title fight.


    ocky Marciano, Champion
    Logical contender


    1. Ezzard Charles
    Outstanding boxers

    1. Roland LaStarza
    2. Dan Bucceroni
    3. Bob Satterfield
    Honorable Mentions
    Tommy Harrison
    Coley Wallace
    Harry (Kid) Matthews
    Heinz Neuhaus
    Earl Walls

    champion Marciano


    Logical contenders

    1. Jersey Joe Walcott
    2. Ezzard Charles
    Outstanding boxers

    1. Roland LaStarza
    2. Dan Bucceroni
    Honorable Mentions
    Harry (Kid) Matthews
    Rex Layne
    Coley Wallace
    Bob Baker
    Heinz Neuhaus
    Jimmy Bivins
    Karel Sys

    Yes Cockell. The contender the NBA thought was no different to Valdes. Who’s fault was that?

    Valdes subsequently wrecking Cockell after Marciano wrecked Don is akin to Damiani subsequently wrecking Biggs after Tyson did it. Or any amount of contenders beating someone after the champion wrecked him.

    the most recent fights, two wins, were threat to the title statements where Charles demolished Coley Wallace and Bob Satterfield.
     
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  10. mcvey

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    I see that Marciano fought a collection of puddings and continued to do so long after it was justified as him learning the ropes.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I really haven't the forebearance to read anymore of your ****.
     
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  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Don’t blame the messenger. I’m only telling you what the official line was at that time.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    It’s not mine though. It’s the official ratings.
     
  14. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Which literally every big fighter does more or less. He faced enough good boxers and all he could especially for the short career. But yes, move the talk again...
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    He hasn’t got the forebearance
     
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