Rocky Marciano's so called punching power

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Shawn Kemp, Jun 27, 2013.


  1. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Yep, you gave him quite a profound reasoning.
     
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  2. SolomonDeedes

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    Valdes was the NBA's sole logical contender, while Cockell was just listed as an "outstanding boxer". It's totally untrue to say that the NBA thought they were "no different".
     
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  3. choklab

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    Robert Christonberry, Americas Mr Boxing said “if you look at the two records of Valdes and Cockell there is little between them”

    I took it christonberry was represented the NBA and New York Athletic commission.
     
  4. SolomonDeedes

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    Christenberry didn't work for the NBA, so that quote doesn't support your claim in any way.
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This one is right up there in terms of a troll casting his net and seeing what he can catch. He knew enough to know what buttons to push.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Just another example of DISHONESTY!
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken,twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools."
     
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  8. mcvey

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    I call this soft matchmaking that on paper should not be competitive.
    Mitchell 181lbs 8 -13- 2 R M 32-0-0.
    Simmons 8-8-1- RM 21-0-0.
    Weekes 0-0-0 RM 6-0-0.
    Hardeman1-4-0 RM 8-0-0
    Digorgio 9-9-0 RM 16-0-0
    Donato7-10-0 RM 11-0-0
    Jefferson 172lbs 2-2-0 RM 9-0-0
    Cardone 0-0-0 RM 8-0-0
    Eldridge 22-20-5 RM 26-0-0
    Ferron 4-6-0 RM 10-0-0

    Record padding.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    sorry, you are right about the NBA, christonberry was head of the NYSAC. the New York State athletic commission which worked with NBA & held some serious sway as it sanctioned most of the HW championship fights…it later broke out on its own when it sanctioned Joe Frazier as champion in the next era.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

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    I always respected the opinion of Emanuel Steward, on why he didn't rate Marciano highly historically he said:
    Marciano was the greatest over achiever in history with conditioning and good power, but he was
    Too small,
    short armed ,
    uncoordinated,
    clumsy,
    cut easy,
    and had poor balance.
    Plus the good fighters he beat were past their best and the ones closest to prime
    were basically light heavyweights.
    His analysis of Rocky's opponents can be subjective , but his analysis of his abilities is not.
    I've watched about all of Rocky's available film,,,,and film don't lie.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    You don't still believe this do you J?
    Name the opponents that ended up with tumors?
    Apart from Walcott ,who said he hit harder than Louis?
    After their 2nd fight Lastarza had an operation to have bone chips removed from his arms it was a longstanding condition and had no connection to the Marciano fight.My source is a Lastarza interview with the Ring.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Marciano was a great fighter. Nielson was a journeyman.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Nope,he weighed 193lbs.Look it up!
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know why he bothered,he could have just put ex opponent Humphrey Jackson on the pay roll!
     
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  15. janitor

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    I still don't think that Marciano's power should be open to question.