Rodrigo Valdez - Devastating Puncher

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Right now this second you would have to favour Valdez over Canelo .

    But the way we view Canelo has to be fluid and as such his ranking will change over time.

    Maybe to the point where we favour him to beat Valdez.
     
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll never favor Canelo over Valdez. He simply isn't talented enough and doesn't have the style.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That's not a good thing to say mate.

    Imagine if you was to judge Valdez only up until 1972.

    If in the lead up to the Carlos Marks fight someone was to say "I'll never favour Valdez over Randy Turpin, he simply isn't talented enough and doesn't have the style"

    Don't be so naive.
     
  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he does deserve respect. He is underrated fighter of the 70's. Monzon couldn't
    stop Bennie Briscoe in 2 fights and Hagler too the only man who could stop Bennie
    was Valdez.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Valdez wasnt just dealing with his brothers death. Valdez had been in a car accident the previous year and in the accident his right hand got mangled. His right hand was his power hand and it was thought for a time that he would never be able to fight again. After he came back his hand was never the same, it was deformed, as a result he was never the same fighter. Valdez became Monzon's #1 in 1973. It was three years before they actually fought and that rests squarely on Monzon. He wanted nothing to do with Rodrigo until after there was so much talk around about Rodrigos hand being bad.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Valdez-Canelo would be brutal. Valdez would crush Alvarez within 6...as for Ahumade-Kovalev...as much as I like the Krusher, he would be in deep waters with the man who "should have been champion"...
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Meanwhile, Monzon was four years older than his rival. Monzon and Valdez were the Ali-Frazier of the middleweights.
     
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  8. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was reading this post with open mouthed amazement before I looked at the poster's name.... after I did , it occurred to me that it makes perfect sense. I have no idea why, but I feel a little dizzy right now,...like I've been in a certain "zone" or something.
     
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  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more. Well put, Mac!!!
     
  11. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Super stuff, Red!!!
     
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  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was just picturing Gil Clancy during negotiations and being told by Golden Boy that Valdes would have to come in at a catchweight. Oh, that would be something.
     
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  13. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Valdez likely could have done it. He was a small MW who spent the first six years of his career fighting at LW and then WW and came in pounds under the MW limit up until the end of his career.
     
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  14. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valdez and Briscoe would both walk through Canelo. Emile Griffith would outclass him.
     
  15. mcvey

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