Roger Lee Trust "The Black Mamba" Mayweather

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  1. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Excellent showcase for one of the greats.
    I always loved watching Roger and was sad to watch him slowly grow older and leave us
     
  2. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Fantastic post!
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Curious to see what the scoring posse thinks of the Baltazar & Tyson decisions, which is the worse robbery. I can't decide; they're both awful, though.

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  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same. Majestic thread.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Cheers.
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Minor retraction:

    I cited the USBA title as his first in the professional ranks. This is technically not the case; he captured the vacant Nevada State 130 pound title versus Sparrow. When he fought Muñoz it was for his first title at national level or higher. Roger himself called it his first pro title during his "Ring Magazine: Best I Faced" interview - whether merely forgetting or intentionally disregarding the state belt - whence I duplicated that error.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Again I'm sorry for diverting a thread that you have obviously put some time and effort in to.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No worries, man. I have utmost respect for you as part of the Classic forum posting gentry, and wouldn't figure that malicious derailment was your intent. Just didn't want your post to become a catalyst for the usual anti-Mayweathers pile-on that almost seems inevitable with threads on any of them. :deal: (and to reiterate for the benefit of yourself and omnibus/whoever missed in my OP my hope that focus could remain narrowly on Black Mamba, the fighter).
     
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  9. Chuck Norris

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    Yeah I remember pretty well the Lalonde vs Leonard card. :D
     
  10. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roger Mayweather v Tony Baltazar

    My Scorecard

    Round 1. Baltazar 10-9 close
    Round 2. Baltazar 10-9
    Round 3. Mayweather 10-9 close
    Round 4. Mayweather 10-9 close
    Round 5. Mayweather 10-9 very close
    Round 6. Mayweather 10-9
    Round 7. Mayweather 10-9
    Round 8. Mayweather 10-9
    Round 9. Mayweather 10-9 close
    Round 10. Mayweather 10-9

    Mayweather 98-92 (could have been 97-93 but I JUST gave round 5 to Mayweather)

    I actually thought the first half of the fight was pretty close with Baltazar closing the distance at times and Mayweather not doing a hell of a lot off the backfoot other than potshotting but he did manage to steal a few rounds whilst doing it and it began to tire Baltazar as Mayweather began to dominate the 2nd half of the fight as he started to sit down on his shots and bring his right hand into the fight following it up off the jab, something we didn't see at all in the first 5 rounds. Round 10 was rather random as well as he decided to stand and trade which we hadn't seen up until that round and won the battle up close too to go with his showboating. Clearly he thought he'd won the fight.

    The tactics were clear from Mayweather and he should have been given the nod. MAYBE he could have attacked more in the first half of the fight in hindsight as he probably would have made easier work of Baltazar but decided to tire him instead which worked as well as he may have been wary of playing into Baltazar's hands by turning it into a toe to toe war.
     
  11. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Underrated as a fighter from what I can see - especially in light of his world title successes.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The first page - which is essentially one long post broken into 15 parts due to character limit constraints and media embed restrictions (five per submission) under Xenforo - might be longest-ever OP. By far.

    It clocks in at 16,184 words (97,138 chars) - this blame fool IB went and wrote Infinite goddamn Jest about Roger Mayweather of all people! If you'd told me a few weeks ago that I'd spent my first week of COVID-19 isolation doing so in every waking hour not spent on classwork or parenting, I'd have popped an eyebrow for sure. I'd seen a number of his fights (although well after the fact, since they mostly happened in my early childhood and casual-fan adolescence - he, admittedly, didn't appear on my radar until the "most people DKSAB" era, when he was HBO's second most colorful trainer after Freddie Roach) and while they were decent enough watches and his style not offensive to my sensibilities, he certainly wouldn't have made a list of my favorite top forty of his era - nor was he someone it would've occurred to me to do a comprehensive retrospective on, prior to his passing. I needed something to sink myself into for that week, however, as on that same day he passed (3/17/20) we had to put my cat Midnight down, in a harrowing experience that involved her seizing violently in the car until we reached the veterinary hospital. In my numbness a few hours later I read the news about Roger - which didn't come as that big a surprise, given his long-deteriorating constitution - and saw an opportunity to both shed light on an underrated champion and preoccupy my brain from the anguish of idleness.

    Needless to say, the "St. Patrick's Day" holiday is forever ruined for me (eh, no great loss; there are several other "excuses to get drunk" on the calendar: New Year's Eve, Cinco de Mayo, Thanksgiving... and those ones don't idealize the wholesale butchery of Eyrie pagans by Mc-Xtians, hardly something to be that chuffed about). It now carries the blot of mortality for me - and the date of Mayweather's death will always stick with me, if for no reason other than coinciding with my little furry companion's.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Ah yes, the Cool Kids' table™, where saying so much as a single non negative word about any Mayweather is utterly unfashionable. :rolleyes: :lol:
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    (although tbf Roger does a fair amount of clinching in both of those fights - but neither is a particularly bad watch, I'd say ...right, @Inglis_1?)