Roger Mayweather- Hearns would give my nephew trouble

Is "trouble" ebonics for "a brain hemorrhage"?

 

Big Time:yep

I'am a massive Benitez fan but that Benitez/Hearns master class from BOTH of them is proberbly my all time favorite fight to watch. Absolutly sublime skills from both protagonists & Hearns gave an exhibition in cool calm tactical boxing. There was a great moment in that fight wher Wilfredo was beckoning tommy to come on in when Wilfred was on the ropes but Tommy shook his head at Wilfred & said "**** that no way"

Mayweather is a league down from these 2:deal

 

Sounds crazy but this would be somewhat of a mismatch. Hearns is all wrong for Mayweather, it's a nightmare for Floyd. The worst match-up possible. Floyd is just not the fighter to beat Tommy Hearns, he hasn't got the intensity and punching power to get in Hearns grill and take him to deep waters, whilst going through a helicopter blade.

I don't see how Floyd hurts Hearns and i sure as hell can't see him outboxing Hearns to a decision with 40 punches a round. Nobody outboxed Hearns, people better than Mayweather couldn't do it. The only question is would Mayweather get knocked out or would he stay in survive mode like Benitez and be happy with a decision loss.

Vernon Forrest would also cause Mayweather big problems. Vernon was a poor mans Tommy Hearns. The Vernon that beat Mosley was a beast, he had a brillient jab and a big right hand. He also understood distance, spacing and how to fight shorter men really well. Floyd is the greater fighter, but in a stylistic match-up it doesn't look good for him against Forrest. Mayweather would have to put some hurt on Vernon and try and walk down a bigger, taller opponent. A big, disciplined, tall fighter, working behind a brillient jab and big right hand like Vernon had would beat Mayweather in a close fight.

 

''Giving him trouble'' is somewhat of an understatement.

The Welterweight Floyd would be lucky to see the second round against Hearns.

 

Floyd has 0% chance of beating Hearns.

He'd get crushed inside a few rounds. I doubt he'd fare much better than Duran.

 

Hearns would **** FLOYD UP! Hearns is not losing to 130 pounder. Even though Floyd is a big guy who can handle 147, Hearns was an even bigger guy who could comfortably handle 160.


Forget that height, reach, size, strength and power are in Hearns favour. Technically Hearns is a very bad match up. He had quality boxing skills and would shoot that jab out and follow it with a bone crunching right hand. Floyd is fast but the problem is that Hearns is too!

Floyds only shot would be to show insane toughness and get him out of there but I don't think he has Leonards size, strength, power or mindset to achieve what is needed to be done.

Floyds getting hurt. His best bet is to lose bad ala Benitez but survive to tell the tale.

 

Floyd would have to exploit Hearns ONLY flaw his chin, no way he can counterpunch his way to a points win got to go on the offensive and then 'boom', must watch Hearns - Duran again....and again. I expect if Floyd had been fighting in the early 1980's he would have 'done a Pryor' and fought at 140lb forever trying to persuade the odd fading featherweight to have a go.

 

What, Aaron Pryor the natural lightweight?

 

True he always looked like he could make lightweight but why did'nt he, the 140lb division did not have much cred in 1980, turned pro in 1977 (ish) wfighting at 140-7lb. Just being contentious, love watching the Hawk fight but trust me the cynics that knock Floyd now would have had a field day with Pryor.

 

Getting back to Mayweather, one thing I've noticed is that from his 130lb days to now..... he's hardly improved at all.

He's retained his defensive skills, his control of range and also the accuracy of his punches..... but he doesn't put combinations together at all, and doesn't look to close the show.

In fact I'd say he's gone backwards. His lead left hook is thrown incorrectly and is just asking to have a right hand thrown straight over it. The one thing you'll notice looking at his 140lbs and up ledger is that there's only one good right hand puncher on there..... and he was 39, nearly 18 months off - and he nailed him with it.

Looking at his leading contemporaries...... only really Shane and Oscar have experienced similar declines - the likes of Hopkins, Marquez and Pacquiao (and others such as Calzaghe, Martinez etc) have all improved as boxers despite going past their physical primes.

To be honest I think Mayweather is very beatable at WW. He'd more than have his hands full in the early 2000's with Trinidad, DLH and Mosley. If he defeated two of those I'd be very impressed.

 

His left has very, very little variety.

 

I think he actually ditched 135 to chase bigger fights. I would say he would lose all his advantages at 147 though....whilst Leonard might've not wanted any [part of him I reckon he'd smash Pryor to bits....eventually.

If Pyor was around in todays 140lb division, he'd have a field day himself IMO. Still, good post, I get your point entirely:good

 

On Hearns' chin; stopped by one of the best 147lb punchers of all time/arguably GOAT 147lber (standing) after a war and many, many brutal shots.

Stopped by one of the mos brutal middleweight of all time (and arguably the GOAT @ 160) and still managed to rise.

Barkley was a big middle and a decent puncher. Hearns went onto claim a quality victory over Hill @ 175.

Not iron chinned, no. But Floyd Jr has 0 chance to stop him IMO. Or outbox him. Or to survive that long against him. Nor is he on Hearns' level

Truly one of the worst matchups I can think for any fighter, ever.