Roid Jones Jr. Says Fury Not An ATG Because Wilder's Resume Sucks.

He's limited and I think he has regressed as a boxer because he's fallen in love with his power. I don't think he's glass jawed because he would have been knocked out cold by now that's what happens to glass jawed fighters. He's tough and wanted to continue to fight but his overall boxing skills are lacking.

 

Usyk, a man who done precisely nothing at the weight, is the obstacle that stands in the way of the Fury being considered an ATG? Presumably if he gets smashed you'll be saying he never did anything at HW and Fury has to beat Dubois/AJ/Dave Allen?

 

Anthony Joshua for example has fought much better opposition in half the amount of fights Wilder has. Wilder has had a lot of hometown handpicked fights against opposition with little resistance and even then he has had trouble and struggled with them. That's basically what Roy was saying and that isn't even taking into account Wilder's massive liabilities (Chin, Ring IQ, Skills, etc)

 

Roy Jones is right, Wilders resume is poor (there are over half a dozen others in the divison with stronger resumes).

If Fury can beat the likes of AJ, Whyte and Usyk (that's a very big if) he would be an ATG.

I mean compare Furys resume to Lennox Lewis.

Wlad, Chisora x 2 and Wilder.

Or

Hollyfield, Vitalli, Tyson, Mercer, Briggs, Tua, Morisson, Grant, Bruno, Golota and Tucker.

Every name on that lis was a better than Chisora and Wilder.

At present Furys resume (which isnt even the best out the current active HWs) falls mighty short conpared to Lewis.

 

AJ has fought better comp but his chin is worse than Wilder's is IMO.

 

I disagree. If Wilder had fought Joshua's opposition he would have several KO losses by now. Not saying Joshua has even a good Chin (he doesn't) but his Chin has held up against much better competition than Wilder's has. Both Wilder and Joshua are Glass Jawed Fighters. Nothing will ever change that.

 

Nobody really rated Wilder until he starting calling out AJ and then went on to beat Ortiz the first time.
That's when people generally accepted him as a legitimate world level fighter.
Before that he was regarded as a complete joke.

I think we all gave him too much credit for the first Fury fight as well, even though he didn't win and didn't really deserve a draw either, after that fight it was thought that maybe Fury was somehow back to maybe "80%" or "90%", but actually it was more like the 50% that Fury has said recently.
That was a cherry pick gone wrong for Wilder.

 

Didn't you say Wilder beating fury would make him top 10 p4p? So what's so great about Fury that a win over him puts a HW top 10? LOL You also predicted Wilder by KO.. If Wilder had of won you'd be on here now arguing he's an ATG & don't pretend otherwise.. Fury already wrote his name in history ending Klitschkos reign. Take the loss, give the man his props, move on..

 

A fit Fury is a clear level above any version of Deontay Wilder than ever existed.
That should be obvious to everyone now.
Or does anyone need a 3rd fight to make it clear for them ?

 

What would beating DM in Germany have done for RJJs LHW legacy? Now consider that Furys win over WK is basically the equivalent of what that would have been..

 

Wilder isn't a bum, regardless of his pitiful resume.
But he's not enough to make Fury an all-time great.
It's Fury's 2nd best win and Fury gets credit for showing the gulf in ability between himself and Wilder.
Fury also deserved the win in their first fight, when he was a mere half of what he should be.

Wilder is a dangerous fighter and has a couple of good wins over Ortiz, respectable anyway.
It will be a shame if he continues in his career without tackling some of the other Ortiz-level contenders or guys who might be slightly better. He could face Whyte, Parker, Rivas, Ruiz .... those types.

 

Fury is a very skilled fighter I picked Fury to beat Wlad, he was top 10 P4P after he beat Wlad years ago but fell off my list with inactivity. BTW I picked Fury to beat Wilder in the 1st fight I went with Wilder by KO this time. BTW jack ass I have given Fury credit and have made no excuses for the loss. Lastly I just thought Wilder would catch him this time since he dropped him 2x in the 1st fight. I'm just calling out those Fury fans who called Wilder a bum now talking it up as some historic win which is funny. Unlike those hypocrites I never called Wilder a bum and think it was a good win for Fury.

 

DM wouldn't have even been RJJ"s best win and wouldn't have done much for RJJ's legacy he was already and ATG with or without him. Whereas Fury needed a win like Wlad for his legacy and it's still his best win.

 

Careful Mr Roy Jones Jr, your professional opinion will hurt the precious feelings of Team Wilder's cheerleaders over here:

@Mark McBurney @Reppin501 @motorcity @Max Thunder @NoNeck @MorvidusStyle @themaster999 @Inglis_1

 

Course it ****ing would .. im talking about LHW.. not his SMW etc exploits.. Dariusz along with Jones was recognised by ring for years as being the divisions best.. a win over DM would have sealed his legacy at 175 & don't pretend otherwise.. also look at your insecure arse slyly dumping all over wilder now & playing down the win yet u had him KOing both Fury & Joshua (want the posts?) which means you basically had him as the eras BEST! So you obviously put a lot of stock in power when assessing fighters, more so than skill it seems here.. so don't start dumbing it down now just because wilder is a puncher type .. negating a puncher for most of the 19 rounds Fury fought with him was still a brilliant display of boxing IQ regardless of wilders limitations..

Fury would stack up in any era.