Roland Lastarza vs his Era

mcvey · Apr 14, 2008

SuzieQ49 said:

I also have a baker fight in which he wins........he looks even better in that one. Bob Baker is an underachiever......an excellent amatuer who had extrordinary boxing skills and defense for a man his size 6'2 220lb. He could punch too.Coupled with his size, It made him very hard to beat for smaller fighters. Baker suffered horrible hand injuries that caused him to take a nose dive post 1955 in his career, his prime was a short one. But in his prime, the man could fight. I hope John Garfield chimes in on Baker.

Baker should have fought patterson for the title........baker was robbed in the eliminater vs hurricane jackson. When patterson asked to fight Baker in 1955, Damato told him "when your ready to fight top heavyweights ill let you know, but not against a guy like baker."(Floyd pattersons book)

A baker vs Marciano fight would have been a good one, marciano would have eventually broke him down by round 10
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Interesting info I didnt know Suzie ,thanks.

SuzieQ49 · Apr 14, 2008

Mcvey its funny because archie moore essentially cleaned out the young top contenders in the division even more than marciano did because moore dominated the likes of valdez 2x, henry, baker, harold johnson. pretty impressive on moores part. Thats why marciano deserves all the credit in the world for beating the **** out of archie.

mcvey · Apr 14, 2008

SuzieQ49 said:

Mcvey its funny because archie moore essentially cleaned out the young top contenders in the division even more than marciano did because moore dominated the likes of valdez 2x, henry, baker, harold johnson. pretty impressive on moores part. Thats why marciano deserves all the credit in the world for beating the **** out of archie.
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Moore must be about the only fighter who Marciano beat ,who had it still in him to beat contenders after being through the ringer with Rocky.

SuzieQ49 · Apr 14, 2008

Yes I agree. Mcvey how do you see rocky vs valdez, baker, henry matchups turning out?

SuzieQ49 · Apr 19, 2008

I would like to see Mr. Magoo comment on lastarza vs henry, valdez, baker. These 3 young black heavyweight contenders were better more dangerous fighters than lastarza and layne were, and marciano did not fight one of these men.

amhlilhaus · Apr 19, 2008

SuzieQ49 said:

Here are my picks

Valdez MD over Lastarza- Valdez superior size and jab a big difference in the fight. Lastarzas counterpunching against wild valdez wins him many rounds. Lastarza down once.

Baker UD over lastarza- Baker was a bigger version of lastarza, pretty much. Almost identical styles.

Louis UD lastarza- Close fight, Louis outjabs him the whole time, and pushes lastarza around in the clinches with his superior size. Louis heavy punches mark up lastarzas face something horribly. Lastarza wins rounds with his youth and reflexes, but gets staggered a bunch of times by louis left hooks and right hands.

Roland Lastarza UD Bob Satterfield- DR. Z claimed lastarza lacked power, but he forgets satterfield had a glass jaw. I like lastarza to outbox satterfield and keep his wild exhanges at bay with his smooth combinations.

Clarence Henry UD lastarza- Great fight, very close.....I like Henrys more electrifying offensive firepower as the difference, and his superior handspeed. Lastarzas counterpunching would give an offensive orriented fighter like henry trouble, but I expect henry to pull it out.

Moore TKO lastarza- The cagey Mongoose snipes his victim somewhere during the fight.

Charles UD lastarza- wide decision

Walcott UD lastarza- I perfectly agree with MF's assesment of this fight, but if walcott gets aggresive he can take roland out.

Roland Lastarza SD Earl Walls- Lastarza down twice early by vicious right hands, gets up and survives the onslaught the next 2 rounds. behind on points lastarza climbs back into the fight late by outsmarting outboxing walls, with walls landing effective points with his jab. Lastarza controls the tempo of the fight. The decision is in, lastarza wins a 1 point split decision in a near dead even fight
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why did you even bother to post this question? you obviously don't think much of lastarza based on your predicitions, it's like asking how floyd patterson would do against the hardest punchers in history, he'd be ko'd each time.

SuzieQ49 · Apr 19, 2008

? LOL I think very well of Roland Lastarza and rate him in my top 75 heavyweights of all time...... I posed this question because I love to hear different opinions and debate a very interesting era in my perspective.

Lastarza was a very good defensive heavyweight, but just because I pick certain fighters over him based on styles I get critisized for not thinking highly of the guy?

Its guys like Clarence Henry who are very underated because they never got their shot at the rock like roland did.

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