Román Alberto González Luna vs. Julio Cesar Martinez Aguilar & Mauricio Lara vs. Emilio Sanchez RBR.

ShovelHook · Mar 7, 2022

CST80 said: ↑

Navigator below sums my feelings on Chocolatito up to near perfection. Then add in his slightly mechanical dispassionate nature. Like he's simply going through the motions. I've never seen a less exciting guy be in so many FOTY candidates. But it always comes down to how much passion his opponents bring to the table. If they don't give their all, then you get some one sided hour long beatdown that as dull as dishwater, like last night. His matches against Martinez, Viloria, Arroyo, Yafai and Israel Gonzalez were borderline painful. But Sor Rungvisai, Estrada and Cuadras, Yaegashi and Takayama brought the output to match him and they brought the passion, which is why those matches are compelling. Not because of Roman. There's a real sense of drama that he's in danger. Also, I feel as though Cuadras was robbed, as was Estrada in the first fight. I also detest the tendency of most of his overzealous fanboys to lose all perspective when it comes to scoring a match, and always reflexively side with Gonzalez, sometimes in a war, the heavier shots are worth more than volume. Like with Sor Rungvisai. One of his ramrod lefts was worth more than his weak ass flitting one twos.

So yeah, I find him to be a bit of a personalityless droid, who happens to be an incredible boxer, with an excellent skill set, who's only exciting when he's in the ring with another exciting fighter. Everything Roman does is dull that doesn't involved one of them. Whereas you'll rarely see a boring match from Sor Rungvisai, Estrada or Cuadras.

Although I disagree with the last part.... Parasite is an overrated tub of horse****.

I couldn't care less what someone's politics are.

No, I didn't like him, long before everyone started loving him.... and that triggers you, so you call me a hipster and a contrarian, because you know that triggers me in an attempt to get even.

Be quiet. Find out the actual answer before you start making assumptions. Do I have contrarian tendencies? Yes. But never when it's detrimental to myself. I'm no sadomasochist, I'll never deprive myself of joy and root against something that's popular if I like them too, I'll only do that when I feel there's a valid reason for it and I genuinely dislike them. However... will I sit down on my shots, and go all out when that's the case? Yes. Also, you never know where I'm going to end up, sometimes I go with the popular opinion, and go against the hardcores, and sometimes I go out on a limb. Whatever feel is the genuine and the right side of the argument, sometimes even when everyone disagrees with me... that's where I plant my feet.

Well.. I did put all my eggs in the Rungvisai basket, and lest you forget...... he delivered twice. So why the **** would I hate him for that?

Okay Mr. Radiohead, and I Hate Bill Murray..... you're not one to talk.

For years I was one of the most vocal anti-Canelo posters on this site, I also despise Marquez, can't stand Valdez, root against Zurdo Ramirez. So much so, I've been accused by several Mexican posters of having an anti-Mexican bias. Now, most of those posters are also now friends of mine on here and come to the realization that that's not the case. Because some of my favorite boxers are also Mexican. However, I do find it rich that you being completely uninformed, would make such an asinine assumption like this. Especially when one of my favorite fighters from the last 15 years was TakashI Miura, who was literally nicknamed The Mexecutioner. I like the fighters that I like, because I like them, and they come from the furthest reaches of the world, there's not rhyme or reason. So never make an attempt to decode it. It's futile.
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Fair enough, but I still think you're often a contrarian for the sake of being so. I don't think you're always a contrarian but you most definitely like to have your moments and seem to revel in it.
Chocolatito isn't a big personality but there have been many beloved fighters with the charisma of a block of wood. I just don't see why he of all fighters should be held to the lofty standard of having to be exciting out of the ring when he's already provided so much great viewing in the ring where it matters. Each to their own but there isn't anything substantive to dislike Chocolatito for.

CST80 · Mar 8, 2022

ShovelHook said: ↑

Fair enough, but I still think you're often a contrarian for the sake of being so. I don't think you're always a contrarian but you most definitely like to have your moments and seem to revel in it.
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Well, you'd be wrong. Just because I have a seemingly contrarian take quite frequently, that's because I think outside of the box and genuinely have different takes on things. I'll never go out on a limb and make an ass out of myself if I don't on some level believe what I'm saying. I certainly would never do something like that if it would compromise my enjoyment of a fighter, or a TV show, music or film. Like a debate going in the Lounge currently, I loved the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre, most seem to hate it. Yet I'm vociferously defending it and my take on it, is it a contrarian take? Yes. But it is a genuine one? Absolutely, I adored every second of that cheesy piece of crap. Now do I revel in it? Yes. Because I actually feel it and believe it. Passion is an underlying motive for almost everything I say on here. If I don't feel something, I won't waste my time.

Bustajay · Mar 9, 2022

IntentionalButt said: ↑

So maybe a new system/policy is called for? Disable the site's automated bots, and ignore strikes if they have no immediately provable credence? Probably asking way too much.
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So how many old RBR are gone forever???
I used to enjoy watching fights again and pulling up the old RBR

CST80 · Mar 10, 2022

Bustajay said: ↑

So how many old RBR are gone forever???
I used to enjoy watching fights again and pulling up the old RBR
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Mercifully, all the old RBR's from back in the day are present and accounted for. That's a recent phenomenon that mainly pertains to the new ones and it usually happens the day after. The mods usually have to go and scan over them and make sure there's nothing objectionable which requires reading through 100 pages... again checking for anything we missed. Then we usually can reinstate them. I'm pretty sure the only one that's not in circulation right now is Ryder vs Jacobs, hopefully that one can be up and running again soon. It's more of a massive pain in the ass than anything.

Bustajay · Mar 10, 2022

CST80 said: ↑

Mercifully, all the old RBR's from back in the day are present and accounted for. That's a recent phenomenon that mainly pertains to the new ones and it usually happens the day after. The mods usually have to go and scan over them and make sure there's nothing objectionable which requires reading through 100 pages... again checking for anything we missed. Then we usually can reinstate them. I'm pretty sure the only one that's not in circulation right now is Ryder vs Jacobs, hopefully that one can be up and running again soon. It's more of a massive pain in the ass than anything.
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Román Alberto González Luna vs. Julio Cesar Martinez Aguilar & Mauricio Lara vs. Emilio Sanchez RBR.

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