Karmazin is one of the unluckiest guys that I can remember. I was ringside when he fought Cory Spinks and I thought he won that fight cleanly. He also got screwed against Sebastian Sylvester for a Middleweight belt and never really got a shot at a big money fight. He was huge for the weight class and tough as nails Jones was talented, but way too inconsistent for my liking. I think Karmazin walks him down. After all, he was made in hell.