Ron Lipton: Louis Would Annilate Vitale K.

Joe Louis at his prime
Annihilates everybody
Even Ali would fail miserably

 

I'm guessing the guy saying this is a brain damaged yank ?

 

That would be correct. Here's a video of him:
http://youtu.be/N6QFsHHIGJQ

 

Lipton has a screw loose or two. I think he was kicked out of boxing and thinks Rubin Carter is one of the top middleweight of all time.

Essentially he's a less famous / poor man's Teddy Atlas. Think bitter, but less shown.

 

Jesus I must be phychic. How could I know the nationality of this individual instantly when iv no idea who he is.

 

His a bitter yank and you can tell his a bitter yank just by reading even before you know his nationality

 

I tend to agree with him.

 

Why so? Where are you from mate

 

So do I.

 

Why so? Are you English mate?

 

I am, yes. If the poster is saying he agrees with Lipton that Louis would beat VK(which is how I read the post), I feel the same. Lipton seems to be saying that Vitali is the best of the giant guys, with the right style at the right time. I feel faster punching, smaller heavyweights from the past, including Louis, would have a better chance to beat VK and his brother, than the behemoths we have now.

Apologies if I have misread the earlier post.

 

The nationality part was easy. The brain damaged part was more impressive.

 

There are plenty of fast punching, but smaller heavies during the time when the Klitschko's were active from 1996-2015!

They didn't do well, in general, and there has not been a 200 pound champion since Mike Spinks in 1986. 29 years have passed and there best up and coming pro heavyweight and in the Amateurs are not small at all. This is not a fad, its the evolution of the heavyweight division.

This is not to say a 210-pound man can't be the champion, but he's going to need an attacking style, with Tyson like Power, and a Holyfield like chin.

Take Holyfield, ( who liked used illegal substances as a pro ). He was but 1-4 vs Bowe and Lewis on fair score cards. Lipton fails to realize that artillery from a longer range with power and skills is king.

The smaller man often can get past a larger man's superior reach and height, and if the larger man has power and skills, the smaller man is in trouble. Boxing is the art of being able to without being hit. The an0logy I use is the much smaller man is bringing a knife to a sword fight.

If Lipton really studied Louis, he would note that Louis had problems with good jabbers and movers, which Vitali was. The difference is Vitali hits much harder than the boxer movers who gave Louis trouble and has 2x the chin, with compounded natural advantages of height, reach, and weight. The big men Louis fought was rather unskilled, or out of their prime.

 

Is Ron arguing hereditary or the environment? The environment part can be duplicated. Hereditary in terms of size is genetics / god given, at least for now.

Better stated in almost all sports, a good big man usually beats a good little man. And a great big man almost always beats a great little man.

Boxing has weight classes for a reason. These aren't your grandfather's or father's heavyweights.

Past greats in most cases would be giving up 40-60 pounds in weight, 5-7" in reach, and 4-7" in height. We are talking about a jump of THREE WEIGHT CLASSES. It's almost like asking a great lightweight to beat a great light heavyweight.