ron lyl vs johannson....

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    two big hitters who win s this ko fest?
     
  2. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ron lyle beats the one handed swede
     
  3. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johannson was not one-handed. Granted, in many ways he was that typical continental one-two fighter, without a great left hook but his jab was very good and he used it well to set up the big shot. Lyle could win this fight but if Ingo lands clean Ron would be in a world of trouble.
     
  4. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    It would depend on who landed first because both had only average chins but big punches.
     
  5. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    It would depend on who landed first. Both had big right handed punches but pretty average chins. I favor lyle, who was much bigger and stronger than patterson, not to mention a harder puncher.
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle beat Shavers I believe.

    Lyle can beat Ingo if he is smart & motivated.
     
  7. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can't count johanssons left flick as a punch.it was irritating at best.
    good job he kept away from sonny!
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I'd favor Lyle. Ingo could hit a ton, but he was small, lacked range, and was not a quality boxer. I think Lyle is a much better out fighter. Neither guy had a solid chin, so it comes down to who lands their hard punches first. I think Lyle has a better chance of doing that.
     
  9. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tough to say...Ingo was known to be a massive puncher (Machen KO in 1 but he lacked skille and did get KO'd by Patterson a couple of times...Lyle was not a killer puncher but could punch.....he was pretty durable, recoved well against Foreman,Quarry,Shavers and got off the floor to win or lose in some. I think Lyle showed a lot of heart in his fights and better recup powers so if he was to get hurt he could recover but we never really seen that from Ingo....I give Lyle the edge
     
  10. robert ungurean

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  11. mr. magoo

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    I think Johannson may well have been the better fighter from a fundamental standpoint, but I don't know if the marginal difference would be enough to compensate for his inferiorrity in the physical tools department. Lyle was a large fighter for his day, standing 6'3" and weighing on average 215-220. Granted, he got started late, and wasn't a real force in the division until he hit his mid thirties, but he was competitive nonetheless. He was also a better counter puncher than almost anyone during his era, with Jerry Quarry being one of the few exceptions.

    Johannson's victories over prime versions of Patterson and Machen may well be the best two wins between he and Lyle, however Ingo's list gets very slim beyond those two fights whereas Lyle's grows rather dense. Over the course of his 9 year career, omitting his comeback in 1995, Lyle compiled 43 wins, and among them were Jimmy Ellis, Earnie Shavers, Oscar Bonavena, Joe Bugner, Buster Mathis, Gregorio Peralta, Boone Kirkman and Scott Ledoux. Not necessarily an elite list, but certainly not a resume lacking in substance either. He also lost in competitive fashion to a prime Foreman in one of the greatest heavyweight battles of all time..

    Although Johannson has a good chance of taking this one, I'm going to give it to Lyle. I think this is a bad styles match for Ingo who lunged in with the right, going against a hard hitting counter puncher with decent size and the abilty to take most of what he could dish out. George Foreman and Earnie Shavers - two of the most dangerous right hand hitters in the history of the sport hit Lyle with everything but the kitchen sink ( an over used expression I know, ) and yet he went on to give one of them extreme hell while beating the other. Ingo just isn't that well proven against big, hard hitting, skilled heavyweights..