ron lyle 75-76 vs david haye

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by combatesdeboxeo, Jan 13, 2011.


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  1. combatesdeboxeo

    combatesdeboxeo Guest

    :rofl:lol: LYLE TOOK SHOTS FROM FOREMAN AND SHAVERS. BY FAR HARDER PUNCHERS THAN HAYE. OF COURSE HE WOULD TAKE EVERY SHOT FROM HAYE.. AND HE WOULD KO HAYE
     
    combatesdeboxeo, Jan 15, 2011
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  2. Muchmoore

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    Haye's performances at heavyweight aren't anywhere near as bad as people try to make it out to be. He's 5-0 with four knockouts with the only decision being over the WBA champ Nicolay Valuev who is still ranked in the Ring Magazine top ten. Ruiz was determined as it was his last chance at the big time and was a top ten caliber fighter when they fought. Haye has shown that he is a world class heavyweight, just how world class remains to be answered.

    Does anyone else here sort of want Haye-Chagaev? I think the fight makes sense and would be good in the long run.
     
    Muchmoore, Jan 15, 2011
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  3. combatesdeboxeo

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    the diference is the era!!!! Lyle fought legends and he was competent!!! Haye fought nobody!!!
     
    combatesdeboxeo, Jan 15, 2011
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What bearing does who Haye has met at HW have on the outcome of this fight? None, at all. You keep repeating it because you see it as a fact in your favour. Write this down - in a fight, it's the fighter's skills and equipment that matter, not their record.

    Every time Lyle came up against a fighter ranked in the top 10 he failed to KO them. I think that Haye would be a ranked contender in this era. This indicates to me that he is in a class of fighter that was beyond Lyle's capabilities as a puncher. I don't expect a KO (but i dont' see it as imposisble).

    Haye is physically more gifted. I think he would out-speed Lyle and beat him on points.

    Of course, the foibles of rankings are plenty. Shavers was a top 10 type even if he wasn't ranked when Lyle TKO'd him. But the fact remains, he just couldn't knock out top drawer men. He couldn't.
     
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    WhAT THE ****ING **** YOU ****?!!!!:fire:fire:fire:fire
     
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  6. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He couldn't take Ali's shots,and Haye punches harder than Ali.
    As McGrain said Lyle never stopped a top contender.
     
    Boucher, Jan 15, 2011
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  7. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    bump
     
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  8. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle wrecks Haye. You clowns are just ridiculous on ESB .
     
    ocelot, Sep 4, 2011
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ridiculous question.
     
    cuchulain, Sep 4, 2011
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  10. perko

    perko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    red corbas has it right , haye could never beat lyle.
     
    perko, Sep 5, 2011
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lyle would have decapitated Haye...end of story.
     
    red cobra, Sep 5, 2011
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  12. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lyle by ko if haye fights like a man he gets ko'd in a really good short fight , if haye fights like a girl it takes longer
     
    Mr Butt, Sep 5, 2011
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  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye would have to pick another part of his anatomy to make a loser's excuse with...truthfully speaking though, it would have been his mandible to blame....as well as his heart.
     
    red cobra, Sep 5, 2011
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Lyle knocked out Larry Middleton in 1972, in 3 rounds. Middleton was ranked at the time.
     
    Unforgiven, Oct 3, 2011
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  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Its clear Lyle would probably win a deicision. Haye would run out of the arena, hop in a taxi, and fly out of the country before he would let himself get knocked out. In the press conference, he claims he injured his pinky prior the fight but solidered on like real man yet it greatly hindered his performance.

    Really, Haye may very well have the tools to outbox Lyle but...he's going to have to show me he has some balls at HW before I would favor him.
     
    The Mongoose, Oct 3, 2011
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