Ron Lyle vs Bert Cooper

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    50/50 type fight for me...this is the level both guys are on IMO
     
  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Glad your liking it. I go back and read a chapter out of mine every now and then. I don't know how many times I've watched the Foreman fight either. His fights with Shavers and Quarry were magnificent as well. He does seem quite different as opposed to the intimidating, hulking guy in the ring.
     
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  3. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't agree. Lyle lost only every once and a while, and with the exception of Lynn Ball, always lost to the very best in the world. Cooper lost frequently and to less than credible opponents at time I might add.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with the premise of your post. But Lyle wasn’t that much bigger than Cooper. He was around 215-218 and 6’2”. Cooper was about 6’0” and for his better heavyweight fights was in the 213-220 range. He was also muscular as hell at that weight
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Has a better mustache, too.
     
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  6. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cooper was 5’11 and Lyle was a legit 6’3. Lyle was a fair bit taller and was a better boxer to boot.
    I’m a fan of Cooper and when on song he was a dangerous man but he was really a fringe contender/gate keeper type whereas Lyle was more a legitimate contender in a deep division of the period.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Fair enough. I maintain though that when Cooper was In good form he’d given Lyle a good fight however.
     
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  8. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely.

    Moorer, Mercer and Holyfield found that out the hard way.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Those were some of the most entertaining fights
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He also beat Joe Savage who was the undefeated bare knuckle boxing champion.
     
  11. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'll second this.
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Excellent book...one of my favorites
     
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  13. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Finished it yesterday.Agree with you an excellent read
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Hey George? You forgot Joe Savage.
     
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  15. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lyle was 6'3 not 6'2 and he weighed 220 ripped pounds in his peak shape against Foreman. Cooper was clearly overweight at 220, muscular or not he was over his natural weight,Cooper was a natural full sized cruiser.