Ron Lyle vs Corrie Sanders (Bump poll added)

Ron Lyle destroys Sanders, inside 4 or 5 rounds

 

Question for everyone. Did Lyle ever face a southpaw? I can't recall that he did.

 

Let’s not forget that all four of Corrie’s losses are by stoppage, one at the end of the career you can dismiss but it’s harder to get past Nate Tubbs, a fighter who’s only footnote is that his brother was good.

I think Lyle weathers the early storm and tees off on tiring golfer Sanchez by the fifth or sixth.

Lyle by KO.

 

Good question that needs to be asked anytime a right hander fights a southpaw. Some fighters can see the left hand, some can't. It's frustrating and painful for the ones who can't. I saw a decent heavyweight spar Ezra Sellers once and the heavyweight couldn't see the left hand. The heavyweight got out of the ring in less than 2 rounds. With Corrie Sanders' height, speed, and power it would probably be a bad experience for a fighter who couldn't see the left hand.

 

Which Corrie Sanders? The caucasian fighter from South Africa, or the American brother they call T-Rex?

 

Corrie died like a hero (RIP) but I think Lyle toughs it out more often then not. A 60-40 fight. Sometimes Corrie will catch him with something he doesn’t understand and it’ll be the end.

 

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Saintpat has been riding the Nate Tubbs loss for 20 years now Let's not forget that out of Lyle's SEVEN losses, four are by stoppage, and one of them was by light-hitting Ali. I guess that definitively proves that Lyle couldn't take a punch?
I personally think that Sanders' much greater handspeed and Lyle's tendency to drop his hands (and if you watch the Foreman fight he ate every jab he could, bad news against a southpaw) means that the big thunder will be landed by Sanders first. Generally once Sanders had a guy hurt that was the end of the show.

 

Is there an expiration on a guy’s resume? Does that mean we erase the Klitschko win after 20 years, or does it only goes for KO losses to guys with literally no accomplishments, lol?

Corrie’s entire inflated mythology that he was some nightmare ATG matchup hinges on a single win, and a very nice one at that — but Ross Puritty had already stopped Klitschko at that point … and literally Sanders’ next-best win was over the same journeyman Puritty.

Losing to Nate Tubbs seems no more a fluke than the win over Wlad. ALL of Corrie’s losses are by KO. HALF of those are to nobodies.

 

He got caught by Tubbs, simple as that. It happens.

If you haven't followed Sanders' career then say so. He usually disposed of his opponents better and faster than other well-known boxers. Against Puritty he went 12 with no effort at all and whitewashed Ross. He didn't just have power, but real boxing nous as well.

Tubbs was a fluke. Machimana was when he was in his 40's. Can I interest you in the mighty Trevor Berbick and his legendary win over Ali? Can I pick out Ron Lyle's KO loss to Lynn Ball as proof of a pudding chin?

 

Lyle walks though the fire and wears him down

 

Wlad was a fluke.

Beating Ross Puritty is a nice win over a journeyman. Lots of people beat him. You can look it up. If that’s his second-best win, and it is, it says a lot about what Sanders really is.

Most of Corrie’s ‘name’ wins are in the Berbick-Ali category … guys who were known but well, well past it. They had name recognition but brought nothing to the table. Apart from Wlad, who did Sanders beat? Even Rahman took him out.

Corrie was a southpaw with some pop but he lacked stamina, ring IQ and had a mediocre or below chin. He got one fluke win and never did anything else to suggest he’s on that level.

Nate Tubbs had exactly two wins over fighters with winning records before Sanders and both of them were below journeyman status — professional opponents. One was a 1-0 guy in Nate’s debut. The other was 1-8-1 in his previous 10 fights.

To lose to Tubbs tells us all we need to know about Corrie.

 

Losing to Lynn Ball defines Lyle ...

 

If you say so. Only you don’t believe it.

Sanders was 28 years old when he got sparked out by nobody Nate Tubbs in Corrie’s 24th fight. Lyle was 38 and on the third bout of a comeback after retiring for a year due to legal troubles.

The Ball loss is much more akin to Sanders’ loss to Machimana.

Furthermore, Lyle had wins over Bugner, Shavers, Jimmy Ellis, Oscar Bonavena, Buster Mathis and Gregorio Peralta by that time. Every single one of those is better than Sanders’ second-best win — although I’ll grant that his fluke win over Wlad is better than Ron’s best win.

I know you love you some Corrie Sanders, but don’t make intellectually dishonest comparisons to try to bolster his one-hit-wonder resume.

 

So Lyle was in his 40s and looked like a beach ball?

Yeah I don't think so.

You're the one that's reaching