Ron Lyle vs the best of the 80's

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  1. Mendoza

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    You could say Lyle would or could have been a champion in just about every decade of boxing. As it was he was in an era Ali and Foreman, though it should be noted he was out boxing Ali until Ali landed one of his best right hands in round 11. A minority fell the stoppage was pre-mature.

    Lyle also had Foreman down and hurt.

    How would Lyle do in 1980’s if he was in his prime these ten?

    Pinklon Thomas
    Greg Page
    Larry Holmes
    Mike Tyson
    Tim Witherpsoon
    Mike Dokes
    Gerry C00ney
    Mike Weaver
    Tony Tucker
    Buster Douglas
     
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  2. MrPR

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    Larry Holmes and Iron Mike are potential losses .

    I would not be shocked to see either 1 of those men to get the best of Lyle .

    Lyle would gladly trade with Tyson in a heartbeat and that would be highly dangerous for either man .
     
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  3. Mendoza

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    Lyle was a puncher with good skill. He was once pronounced dead in a prison, then came back to life. I do not think he would be scared by Tyson.

    I'd favor him in five matches.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

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    You shouldn't.
     
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  5. MrPR

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    Lyle was Pure Brute strength .

    Use to do a 1,000 pushups in jail to kill time .

    The man was Manhandling Prime Foreman in a power fight sending him to the canvas 2x !

    How many men walking on this earth can say they done that to Big George ?

    He walked threw Earnie Shavers best powershots and took Earnie out by stoppage .

    In Ron Lyles eyes , Mike Tyson would be nothing .

    But I would Admit , Ron thinking that way could potentially be fatal for him .

    Mike was fast with beautiful head movement , and with serious power .
     
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  6. Titan1

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    Thomas, ****ey, Weaver, Tucker, and Douglas, Lyle beats by decision, though he could stop Buster late. Holmes and Tyson he loses to flat out.Witherspoon, Dokes, and Page is a 50/50 concept. Dokes doesn't have the power to hurt Ron, but his speed and toughness could be a problem.Witherspoon's right could be a tremendous problem for Ron, but if the unmotivated and out-of-shape Tim shows up, it's in Ron's favor for a UD.Ron definitely wouldn't outbox Greg, and like Dokes, Greg's speed could be a problem, in addition to his underrated power.But if the best version of Page doesn't show up, Ron takes a UD by bullying Page and not allowing him to get off.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Lyle knocked out either 1 or 0 ranked contenders.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

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    Yeah Shavers is the only one I can think of.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    You can say he knocked out more than one ranked contender outside of Shavers.

    Garcia was ranked #8 in Ring annual ratings

    Middleton was ranked 10th in Ring annual ratings
     
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  10. McGrain

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    These two met on the fifteenth of August 1973.

    Garcia was ranked #10, not #8, in March 1973.

    Garcia lost, by first round knockout, to the unranked Joe Alexander in May of 1973.

    In other words, Garcia needed to sustain his #10 ranking past a 1 round KO of an unranked fighter.

    Didn't happen.

    Middleton met Lyle in December of 1972 and October of 1973.

    Middleton was unranked in March of 1971:

    Muhammad Ali
    George Foreman
    Oscar Bonavena
    Jerry Quarry
    Mac Foster
    Henry Cooper
    George Chuvalo
    Sonny Liston
    Jose Ibar Urtain
    Jose Luis Garcia

    March of 1972:

    Muhammad Ali
    Jerry Quarry
    George Foreman
    Oscar Bonavena
    Mac Foster
    Jimmy Ellis
    Floyd Patterson
    Jose Luis Garcia
    Jack Bodell
    Joe Bugner

    March of 1973:

    Muhammad Ali
    George Foreman
    Jimmy Ellis
    Ron Lyle
    Floyd Patterson
    Ernie Terrell
    Jose Roman
    Joe Bugner
    Ken Norton
    Jose Luis Garcia

    Or March of 1974:

    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
    Ken Norton
    Jerry Quarry
    Ron Lyle
    Earnie Shavers
    Oscar Bonavena
    Joe Bugner
    Jimmy Ellis
    Chuck Wepner




    So, no.
     
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  11. Bummy Davis

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    Lyle would fit in with that group but he wins and loses to the same group, he would not be a stand out. I was in Lyle's dressing room before the Quarry fight in MSG and In ****ey's dressing room before their match at the Coliseum. Lyle's best 2 fights were Shavers (Shavers winded) and a losing effort to Foreman.
     
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  12. he grant

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    Lyle
     
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  13. ideafix12

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    where can i found that information?
    thanks
     
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