Ronald Reagan promised to ring Cooney if he beat Holmes

Brilliant.

Still not best for a president to take sides I guess.

 

Of course not. A logical person might say it's only wrong for one to root merely because of race. One could never ever extricate the reasons for doing so, though. So making the connection is probably more in the wrong than anything else.

 

i dont know if i'd declare it morally "wrong".
but it's not something I can relate to at all.
anyone who feels a need to make some emotional bond or loyalty with someone else based only on notions of shared "race" or skin colour is very possibly a moron

the scenario of Reagan, Cooney and Holmes is actually wrong for different reasons, political and historic

 

Yet, in the real world, the history of the United States of America has been or was blighted by such a categorization.

it's actually ludricrous to imply that Cooney and Reagan as opposed to Holmes would be consider only "Irish-Americans" rather than white men v black man, or that irish-american as opposed to any afro-american doesnt come under the umbrella or a wider and more malign "white" and "black" ethnic divide.
in the USA.
in the 20th century.
in the real world.

i'm not talking about in your ideal conceptual world, which i'm sure is a very nice place.

never heard of them.
and no i dont have a problem with them

 

I'm not a yank,but would it not be correct to say that there is quite a bit of difference between the democratic party of today and that of what it was over fifty or so years ago,when Reagan was supporting them?


The most prominent politicians who still supported segregation and the jim crow laws during the whole civil rights movement were southern democrats,weren't they?


Reagan slipped on over the Republican side around the same time that the infamous Strom Thurmand did.

 

Once again i'll ask you to provide proof about the story.

 

I'm not sure you understand this culture as it is today. The Irish here are a very strong subculture, albeit in its "Irish-American" form. As are the Italians, the Puerto Ricans, the Cubans, Mexicans, Jamaicans, etc. You just don't hear any of the lighter ethnicities carrying on about white power any more in any way.

The U.S. is still blighted by a preoccupation with color, though it isn't what it was in the 1930s or even the 60s. Still, there's far too much hand-wringing about pigmentation in this country -and the moonbats would have everyone believe that the KKK is under every rock and behind every corner. It gets really silly.

Well, it sounded as if you would have understood those parades as celebrating their pigmentation instead of their ethnicity. Which would be a serious misunderstanding of what those events are about.

Wanna guess how many participants in the St. Patty's Day parade carry a sign that says "Go White!" or any variation of their skin tone? Not a one. It's all shamrocks and green stuff. Hell, other "whites," Italians, used to wear red on St. Patty's Day just to provoke the Irish.

 

why ?? JFK liked patterson but never called to congratulate liston ?? why that ?? liston served his time so was a citizen like everybody else.
i think also leaders and kings and presidents can have there favorites.. if reagan never ever congratulated black people then it would be something else. but like i said earlier maybe he disliked holmes for some reason ?? or maybe he felt more related to cooney for whatever reasons.. being it white or both being irish americans. that still is not racism. today people tend to get a little to political correct about racism or other forms of discrimination.
racism is : thinking or believing that some else is less then you because of there skin colour. racism is not favouring one sportsman over another cause you share something in common. being it : that a guy comes from the same country as you or whatever. i think its normal that if you let 100 people watch a fight between 2 fighters they never seen before most white people cheer for the white guy and most black people for the black guy. if it is a match between a heterosexual and a homosexual most straight people will cheer for the hetero guy that has nothing to do with racism or discrimination it is a normal human nature. we tend to like people better or easier to wich we can relate the easiest and those are people with who we have something in common

 

For the umpteenth time can you provide any proof of this?

 

Reagan was always a racist, **** him.

 

It was in Larry Holmes' biography. He admitted that was the case, that he had heard Reagan was on the phone ready to congratulate Cooney if he had won.

 

Eh? So Larry got this info from who? And are we to assume the President would already be on the phone as the fight was going on. It all sounds like 3rd hand accounts from parties with an agenda. Its a nice story to tell but likely a myth.