Roughly Were Would You Put Floyd Mayweather Jr In A/Your ATG List, at this stage?

A very bizarre statement...I cant possibly see an argument for it.

 

Ray Robinson wasnt quite Ray then, old, faded and fighting for the money, and nowhere near as dominant

As for the question I'd probably rate Floyd below Burley who I rate very highly and probably below Conn who I also highly rate but thats debatable and above the less dominant Basilo.

Its easier to compare Floyd to fighters around his weight class and in mind of that I rate him above Chavez, Ortiz and Arguello but below Whitaker and Duran. And controversally I think he's better than Armstrong

 

I think you forgot an extra 0.

 

In the 50-60 range, probably. The Marquez win did absolutely nothing for his standing. If anything I lost even more respect for him based on that performance.

 

No comments... but, I still hope Gayweather will be trashed some day :hey

 

just inside top 100

 

Floyd is not above Arguello, Chavez or Ortiz base on resume, and they are equally talented in different ways. Terrible nuthugging.

 

No way is Mayweather above Arguello, Ortiz or Chavez, he's got to do a whole lot more before he gets that accolade

 

Mayweather needs to quit cherry picking from lower weight classes. He's a great fighter, no doubt. Rate him above Chavez, Ortiz, Arguello? Nah, get back to me when he beats top quality opposition (Mosely, Williams) in his own weight class.

 

Skill levels he's as good as anyone. Resume, not that great in comparison to the cream. BUT his style should allow him to fight for quite a while yet.

 

Even if we were basing it solely on skills, I think he's terribly overrated and still wouldn't rate him among the best I've ever seen.

 

IMO, the whole hit-and-not-be-hit shtick that he displayed against Marquez the other day was exactly what Roy Jones was criticised for at Light-Heavy against overmatched opponents. Only Roy did it better. Floyd's punch output is still poor. The shoulder roll looks terrific but I wonder how easy he'd find it if say, he were fighting Pipino Cuevas.

People ae overlooking the decent but not fantastic standard of his opponents. I currently rank him around the same place as Pryor. Talented no doubt but a thin resume. Pryor IMO is still more impressive on film. And no amount of weight hopping from Floyd is going to change my opinion of him, I'd rather see him face some opponents who can genuinely test him.

Now Floyd's triumphant return has got everyone talking let's see if he steps up to the plate and fights his most dangerous foe at 147. Unlike Michalewski (spelling?) at 175 Mosley can actually be made.

 

I agree. Floyd would never sign the contract.