Roughly Were Would You Put Floyd Mayweather Jr In A/Your ATG List, at this stage?

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  1. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suspect you underestimate Cuevas. He would hurt Floyd terribly -- wether he'd win is a seperate issue entirely, as Cuevas is susceptible to counter-shots, but his heavy hands would hurt Floyd even over a guard.

    Cuevas would press the issue, and Floyd would have to knock him out.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    No, there's no doubt that Floyd would never step up to fight someone like Cuevas. Basically he won't fight anyone who is dangerous. I can see him fighting Berto rather than Mosley, and Spinks at 154 rather than Pac/Cotto.


    Floyd DOES coast at times. He'll go back to the ropes and allow his opponents to throw a flurry, smile, and take it back to centre ring again.

    This wouldn't work the first time he tried it against Cuevas. Cuevas isn't Margarito (who Floyd would've outmanouvered easily IMO) and he would smash Floyd to bits. Literally.
     
  3. smitty_son408

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    40-48 range. Terrific skill-set needs a few more wins against stiffer comp to prove his worth though.

    Floyd would box circles around Cueves on his best night.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    No nuhugging about it, rather Chavez, Arguello and Ortiz get the rose tinted glasses treatment. Floyd is more impressive on film, more dominant and his resume gets underrated in comparison to these 3, which I won't bother to debate as some minds aren't affected by logical debate
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Yeah, YOURS.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    No Margarito punches straighter (not saying much) and throws more leather and has more range/height. I'd honestly give Marg a better stylistic shot than Cuevas who is also a B class fighter at best, but both would get picked apart. Really if your going to pick someone over Floyd find someone who can at least throw a straight punch so it at least has a chance of landing
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    The fact of the matter is, at 147 Floyd throws single-shots or two-punch combos. They are not powerful enough to keep Cuevas away. Whilst Floyd employs great lateral movement and foot speed, he does drop into his shell and retreat to the ropes.

    Now, straight shots are not going to matter because with every puncher that hits Floyd's guard it is going to do him serious damage. He's ging to have to go back to the ropes more frequently due to some serious steam being taken away from him. He won't be able to keep it up for the 12, and even his guard is going to come down after the punishment Cuevas puts him through.

    Cuevas H2H is one of the most destructive forces at 147. Thing is, you'd probably pick Floyd over Hearns at 147 and you are a ridiculously unobjective poster.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    I wouldnt pick Floyd over Hearns at 147, I rate Floyds ability highly, no secret of that, I also don't rate Cuevas highly head to head.

    Floyd's punches have been good enough to get the respect of and hurt Delahoya and Hatton who both had chins up there with Cuevas, Floyd just hasnt been getting hit at 147-154 and a wider slower puncher is going to land less and when he does it'll be less clean. Sure Cuevas looked brutal teeing off on club fighters but he never replicated it against anyone elite because he doesnt have the boxing skill to do so

    Not to mention Cuevas was a champ in a weak WW era and his best win is Espada who isnt a big fuss. Cuevas may have been past prime but Hearns and Duran thoroughly exposed him
     
  10. Danny

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    That's one hell of a list, but as someone laready stated, Armstrong should be there! Personally, I have Henry at NO.2. P4P of all time. Ahead of him is Robinson!
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Yeah, by beating the **** out of him. Floyd isn't doing that.
     
  12. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cuevas was to slow for floyd. A 14 year old Tony Ayala Jr beat up Cuevas in sparring, when Cuevas was world champion.

    Floyd is just to skilled for Cuevas
     
  13. Robbi

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    I think you underrate him, terribly.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    LoL
     
  15. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with ya