Round 2 Orlando Canizales-Francisco Alvarez, the best Canizales ever boxed?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is a flat out awsom display of agressive technical punching. Canizales is absolutley superb in this round of boxing. I consider Zarate and Olivares a clear class above him but I honestly think that for this round he's as good as either. Check him out.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO7L8u_CU0Y[/ame]
     
  2. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But only for that round, surely.

    Great stuff. Not really out of the ordinary for him, though. He was a brilliant technical fighter, on par with either of the two you mentioned or really any Bantamweight I've seen this side of Happy Lora
    (who was kind of like an inverted version of Canizales, emphasis on defense). He just wasn't proven against the kind of opposition they were, particularly Olivares, who fought in an era with killers that could've reigned supreme in many others. Who knows, though? Canizales may've lacked that same heart-of-a-killer, competitive demeanor that sees so many to the very top against that class of fighter. He always did seem very reserved and clean-cut, both in and out of the ring.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think that Zarate and Olivares are harder punchers. There's your difference, Canizales didn't have quit the same level of pure power, although he was capable of landing the right shot and doing as much damage with it.
     
  4. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Great stuff.

    I don't know about it beign the best he ever boxed, but i'd say he was usually always better in his prime than Zarate or especially Olivares(who is maybe hte most one-handed great fighter i've ever seen)as far as pure technical chops goes anyway.

    But he didn't have the one or two standout attributes athose guys had(like power and size for Olivares Zarate jofre etc) that allowed him to coast technically from a well established comfort zone via the threat of their power.He was the kind of fighter more likely to suffer if not at 90-100% sharpness, being so overly technical and reliant on finesse and fundamentals.

    Never thought he had quite the right mindset to excel within his choice of style either.That sort of highly technical, yet aggressive and steady box-fighting works best if you are a viscious, mean ******* that loves to punish fighters like Duran or Gomez.Canizales was too polite too often imo.staying in feel his man out boxing mode too long, when he had the offense to blitz them.
     
  5. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah that was a great performance in that round, i enjoyed the 1st round almost as much, thats about as perfect a feller out round as you will see.

    As for the 2nd though its great. The on his toes in and out style seems to have Alvarez confused, not sure exactly when Canizales is going to come at him or exactly what angle. The left hook on the round is almost always on the button, leads with it well, its landing with vicious intent qt times. The way he slowly builds up as well and then puts more pressure on, beginning to throw more shots and land the combinations the more the round goes on is impressive to me. Add all of this to a good defensive performance in the round and the little return fire he is taking and sure it is about as good a performance in a round as you can wish for
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This post is bang on the money.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Excellant post.


    As for the thread title, some of the best boxing I think Canizales performs is in the early rounds of the second Billy Hardy fight, offensivly he is punch perfect and really is aggresive and looking to hurt Hardy, unfortunatly he begins to fade but then pulls out the fight with a brilliant shot.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Definitely, definitely short of true killer instinct. I don't think Alvarez makes the 12 with Zarate, for example.