Round 4 says it all.

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Pacquaio had Floyd on the ropes, covering up in defense at the end of a flurry after he had managed to sneak a left hand through and what does he do? He steps backwards, because he was afraid of the counter punch.... at which point Floyd resets, establishes the jab and nullifies him again.

    If anyone wants to be mad about this fight, point it at Pacquaio, the guy simply didn't want to take the chance of being knocked silly to win the fight.
     
  2. TheHun

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    Pac said his shoulder started bothering him in the 3rd.
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao threw the fight.
    It's obvious.
     
  4. JohnJohn

    JohnJohn Active Member Full Member

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    Or maybe he didn't want to punch himself out since a lot of his punches weren't getting through Mayweather's guard.
     
  5. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At one point, he threw 11 punches in a round. Eleven.

    I'm horrified at the injury excuse, but I may give him the benefit of the doubt to at least somewhat justify his **** poor performance.

    It's true there was a time in training camp where Manny quit training and didn't spar. I had people who ran with him telling me that he hadn't shadow-boxed for two weeks. They figured it was because Manny wanted to hide his speed from Floyd. Then news came out he was skipping sparring and sometimes training all together, and it all happened consecutively. Reason given was because they didn't want Manny to peak to soon. That seemed weird to me already because it's not like he trained early. How do you peak early if you had a shorter amount of time to train than usual? But, I just accepted it.

    Now, fight night, Manny throws ONE RIGHT HOOK. And that is meant to be taken literally. Only one. It was in the fourth round about halfway through. Then, he is extremely unaggressive. In fact, he wasn't aggressive at all. He didn't throw a jab, cross, hook. It appeared to me he truly was just trying to land the left all night, and only the left. Live, I was freaking out because he was giving the fight away. Floyd was landing clean shots, but Manny never looked hurt. That's honest. Floyd imposed his size once and pushed Manny into the ropes, but Manny never looked hurt. I can honestly say that.


    Post fight, Manny says these things.

    On why he was so unaggressive, "I'm hesitant to be more aggressive because I only have one (arm) because my right hand for pain and only left hand I can use."

    On Floyd's power, "He wasn't strong like my other opponent's, Cotto, Margarito, and others... I hurt him many times, but he didn't hurt me."


    I mean, I'm looking at it... it's 100% true his training did get really weird and suspiciously inactive 2 weeks ago. It's 100% true Manny never appeared truly hurt in the fight. It's 100% true he rarely used his right arm.

    And if he's coming out of the fight saying Floyd didn't hurt him, wasn't strong, and that his shoulder inhibited him, could it be possible that Manny was just being 100% honest?


    And to be real, how horrible will it be if it turns out it is true and Manny has to get surgery. Then, that only ruins the Fight of The Century more. Because it then does discredit the fight in little ways because Manny Pacquiao truly was seriously injured. Only raises more questions, and could leave an asterisk. "What if Floyd fought Manny when he wasn't seriously injured."


    The one of the two worst scenarios for the fight for me was someone being injured. So, if it's true, then screw everything. I still remain with my questions from before.


    This is why I want to see a rematch, to see if Manny is telling the truth and comes out looking more like himself or if he's just blowing smoke. And if he is, Mayweather can whoop his a$$ a second time while getting another 9 figure payday... and embarrass Pacquiao even more, lol.
     
  6. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    even if he was injured, who knows if he'll even recover properly, he might just lie again, i dont want to pay a 100 to line pacquaiios wallet again for him to do **** all. **** giving him a rematch
     
  7. thatguy

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  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    As a left handed fighter, please try and find a right hook easily at an opponent who is constantly turning you, you're either going to be cramped and miss, or you're going to throw the wrong angle and miss.

    You can't throw a right hook easily at an opponent who has you constantly turning as Floyd did to Manny, as also Juan Manuel Marquez was good at doing to Manny.

    Now look at his combinations when he got in close, didn't look to have any issue throwing those right digs, did he? Funny how he only had the issue throwing it when Mayweather was at range, turning him and making him fight his fight.

    Mayweather won't fight Pacquaio again, I think A: Because he doesn't want Pacquaio to have that Pay Day and B: Because I think he realises he's not as good as he was even three to four years ago and its just a matter of time now before he loses the fight against old age.

    His next fight will be Khan at best, if not an easy 140lb fight at worst. He's saying farewell to the sport.
     
  9. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal It looked flashy, but little of it landed cleanly. Pacquiao knew this, which is why he backed off and reset.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Yet, this was apparently where Pacquaio would dominate Floyd, by swarming him and being too quick for his defense, and being able to get punches through...

    So you're saying Pacquaio just couldn't do that against Floyd? And that no matter what he did, there was no path to victory for him?

    Kind of like we've all been saying for six years?
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    For Pacquiao to win he had to take chances. He was too scared to do such. It is as simple as that.
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Makes me sad. Pacquiao used to be known for taking risks. Sure, in 2009, he may have gotten KO'ed by Floyd by being so risky but at least it would've been more exciting. He has more of a chance being risky than being patient and trying to outbox. Only played into Floyd's hands.
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's funny because it was obvious after round one that Pac has no chance in this fight. Too small, too inaccurate, too crude.
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They don't listen. They're STILL not listening.
     
  15. reanthefox

    reanthefox Active Member Full Member

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    youre a stupid guy.

    floyd was never in a position to counter, he was doing the clottey impression , squared up.

    the smaller, weaker guy due to constant bloood draining (who might be injured, that explained it), was pounding the body of a juiced to the gills guy who looked like he can take it.

    pac was concerned he might pucnhed himself out. he was obviously at a disadvantaged in all areas imaginable.

    had the fight was in even playing field, pac would have been able to finish floyd right there or the next round.

    at the very least we could have seen 3 to 4 types of rounds like that.

    floyd never hurt pac with those flicking left hands that landed on his gloves and those occassional right hands that never landed flush.

    but pac never stop pushing but not as active or dominant as that round and floyd ran at every exchange.

    pac stood there in the middle, evading, parrying, blocking, occasionally backing up.

    i think he did enough to win, but vegas doesn allowd him to box. dominant win or else.