round per Round Valuev-John Ruiz

I did'nt see it, but if a SD is true, I think its safe to assume Ruiz really won it.

Goodness there are some lousy scorers here on ESB......though I did'nt see this one, I saw there first fight......
....alot of the posters around here giving it to Valuev point to his jab.

I've seen Valuez fight several times, and his jab is'nt a hard effective one.....he really just pushes it out there and relies on his mass to stave off an incoming attack.

Those pointing to a Valuev jab being the factor for his win, have really got to weigh just how effective it was.
.....as I said, in fight one, it just was'nt very effective.

Ruiz robbed twice now vs Valuev, but I cant feel bad for him, he more than has it coming after all the gift decisions he got during his first bogus reign as a bogus champion.

 

I had it Valuev 115-112.

Ruiz was able to land the occasional good flush hook, but just didn't get enough of them together and was guilty of falling in too much and overshooting.

The biggest single reason Valuev won and Ruiz lost was Valuev's jab. Ruiz ate them all night long.

EDIT - seeing the above post, trust me as someone who just watched it, it was effective. Knocked Ruiz back many times, threw him off in the middle of a combination other times, not lightning quick but very thudding and best of all Valuev was throwing it in twos and sometimes threes as well. When the first shot missed the second one wouldn't.

Only if you take away all of Valuev's jab altogether can you make a case for Ruiz IMO...their power stuff was about even.

 

Ruiz won this fight and did a great job even though he was at a huge size disadvantage. Valuev keeps getting bull**** decisions but Ruiz should have known better than to go to biased Germany and expect fair judging.

Valuev is not a real champion, he has lost to Ruiz, Chagaev and Donald. He fights way too soft for somebody his size, weight and throws about 2-3 power shots per round. It's justified to say the HW division is weak because of "champions" like this. Most of them come from Germany too.

 

You havent seen the fight and shout robbery? Patheticatsch

 

It was no robbery,watch the fight

 

You realize not one of the judges was German.

 

Like the first fight, Ruiz won this one too. I'll tell you something, how THE HELL can you score a guy a round for throwing and landing pitty patty jabs that don't even have enough power behind them when the other guy is charging in with serious punches?

Ruiz hurt Valuev in the second round and stunned him in the 11th, Ruiz was there charging in, last time I checked it was Valuev being forced backwards during the fight and Ruiz was the one throwing punches with venom behind them to do some serious damage, how can you score pitty patty jabs over that is beyond me. Ruiz came in and showed hunger, Valuev was seriously tired in the 10th and that followed up all the way to the 12th, Ruiz kept going on and please don't say he wasn't being affective, Ruiz was being affective and those punches landing proved them. Conclusion, landing jabs doesn't win you a round when your opponent is throwing and landing hooks, body punches and a few jabs here and there as well, Ruiz was landing the better more powerful punches.

 

What the hell?, you honestly think Valuev did more in the championship rounds when he was CLEARLY tired and throwing punches with zombie-like speed that Ruiz blocked most of or ducked?

 

I had it Valuev 115-112 here as well.

Too much armpit sniffing for Ruiz as usual.

 

Valuev did almost nothing in the last 4 rounds. I gave them all to Ruiz, who landed powerful, clean punches.

 

I have a very hard time scoring a Ruiz fight as his punches are very sloppy and he still holds, grabs, and clinches. I can't score a fight for a guy that his main objective is to throw 1 punch and then come in head first hug and repeat. His holding has gone down a little bit but it is still way too much. Just my opinion.

 

Funny how Ruiz head snapped back from these "pitty patty" jabs... :rofl

 

Pitty patty, LOL... try tasting one of those jabs.

 

Very true.
I went in there expecting a robbery and got just that, this alien by the name of Valuev has gotten enough robberies already and I can't ****ing understand why. Just freaky size, no speed, no power, no movement, no skill and just a predictable jab with 5 right hands in 12 rounds. The man lost to Donald/Ruiz(TWICE)/Chagaev(glad they saw it that way, was expecting a robbery there too).

 

scar, we may disagree on povetkin but this is a terrific analysis. valuev was just jab, jab, hold. he was the one holding on for dear life at the end. ruiz landed all the telling blows and should have been credited with kd in round 2. ruiz did solid body work too. imo, he was the winner but i wouldn't call it a robbey but those score margins were too wide again.

Wladimir would end valuev's life and povetkin would easily outpoint the giant sloth.