Roy Jones and Hopkins go at it

Yes, to complete spastics this means something.

I on the other hand will judge them by boxing - the sport that happens in the ring etc.

everything else is ****ing horse**** that ruins the game.

 

Beating Dawson of course but count out the man's pride. Everyone wants to avenge a loss. That is if he thought he could win. I don't think Bernard thinks he can beat Roy even at this stage.

 

Hopkins is continually saying it's all about the "business". If you're being totally honest with yourself, regardless of whether it would be relevant or not, you KNOW a Hopkins/Jones fight would generate more business than any other fight you can put on the table for Hopkins. AND, need I remind you hopkins offered 40% to Jones, but refused 60% to the winner and 40% to the loser. Now you tell me how that, in any way, can qualify as anything other than a lack of confidence in Bernard's ability to win the fight.

 

What possible evidence can you proffer to support that claim? What's Roy Jones done better than Hopkins in the last few years other than manage to take a beating from Calzaghe?

 

I know you like to use the "A looked worse against C than B did, so therefore A would get beaten by B!!" line of logic, when in true fact, we all know styles make fights. If we used your logic to dictate who should fight who based on showings against other fighters, I guess Bernard would never have fought Pavlik, now would he?

 

I've already covered off that point, read earlier in the thread. I seriously can't believe how fickle people are on here. Less than a year ago Jones took a dreadful, embarrassing, cringe worthy beating from Calzaghe and, suddenly, off the back of two wins over joke fighter he's suddenly in a position to be making demands? Why on earth would anyone want to see this fight anyway? Don't we want meaningful fights or do we want more sideshows?

 

The difference being, Taylor didn't beat **** into Bernard and make him look like a finished fighter.

 

It needs to be 50-50 at this point. Neither guy has a Championship and neither guy is a bigger draw then the other or atleast a significantly bigger draw. Jones has the win over Bernard while Bernard has the status of top 5 p4p in the world so it all is even in my book. Both guys are just to proud to take less then the other and im sure the idea of spiliting it makes things even worse to them.

 

Maybe the fact that he won't get in the ring with him?

 

Again, A versus B versus C logic means little to nothing in this sport. Bernard doesn't throw 1000 punches a fight and bounce around the ring like a leprechaun, he isn't a southpaw like those that have chronically caused Roy problems, and he HASN'T BEATEN ROY JONES BEFORE. He can talk about his accomplishments all he wants, but ducking the terms of Jones' offer are patently ridiculous.

 

''Dan-b'' If Roy would be crazy enough to ask for 60% guaranteed to himself and 40% to Hops I'd say he's a fool and I'm a big fan of his.

The fact is...Hopkins already has a loss to Roy and he's given the opportunity to avenge it...Wouldn't you want that ? When you're real confident in yourself...you run to sign 60% for the winner and 40% for the loser !!

Don't make it look like Hopkins is making favors to Roy cause its far from the case.

Whether you want to see Hopkins-Jones II or not is irrelevant to the fact that it would sell much more than any other fight for Hopkins and any other fight for Jones ! Why ? because it would draw back fans that want to remember the old times with a classic from true living legends.

 

So now Hopkins is ducking Jones? Deary me some of you are given to hyperbole. So who do you think would win this fight then?

 

Does the fact Hopkins will get no credit for winning the fight factor into your rationale at all?

 

Why wouldn't he get any credit ? That's your rationale..not everyone else's !

 

How much credit did Calzaghe get for beating Jones? Please remind me.