Roy Jones and Mike Tyson, where should we really place them?

8 years before they met in 2001

 

how is it an excuse? Hopkins was busier in the pavlik fight andlike i said u can also say he won that fight with calzaghe as well.

 

If he was so scared of calzaghe like u claim hed of ducked him and fought someone else at lhw and not go to 168 he went right to his weight class. You have to learn Hopkins doesnt duck nobody.

 

Besides his blatant ducking of Roy and Calzaghe in the early 2000s, I'd agree.

 

Constantly use handspeed cause Roy beat him when he was green back in 93 when Hopkins was coming out of jail. If u watch that fight Roy doesnt ever land nething significant on hopkins in that fight what u gonna say OO ROY HAD A BROKEN hand Roys had a broken hand in all his big fights why do u think tarver said "Any excuses tonight roy" Before he knocked his dick in the dirt?

 

Lmao Bernard called him out right on hbo u concider that ducking? okay then. Roy said live on tv "im really to big for bernard" i want 60 percent split all the excuses. Bernard said lets get it on 50 50 putup or shutup roy and roy kept making excuses.

 

This is whats funny in early 2000s Bernard was reigning the 160 division. Joe Calzaghe was still fighting over in the uk nobody knew who he was. Bernards spose to drop his 160 title and drop his legacy to go fight a guy without an identity over in the uk at 168? Your delusional.

 

Really by taking on the best fighter p4p in James Toney thats the real reason he left the division..And you also fail to mention Jones calling him out and offered him 6 mil more than he got for the Trinidad fight and Hopkins found a way to weasel out of that I like how you missed that or should we put up the video ??

Jones didn't want the rematch ?? Why is it that even after Jones gets KO ed again does Hopkins grant him the rematch ? He wanted noooooo part of a fighter like Jones in his prime .Not even Joe Calzaghe back in O2 .

After he beat Tito he sure as hell selected very carefully who he would test himself against ..And Toney called out Jones on 50 other occasions as well as Tyson and Lennox and the Klitchkos did they all duck him too ?

 

Apparently Hopkins was delusional, when he actually signed the contract to fight Joe :deal

 

Bernard was the one who called him out in that video of bernard and roy trashtalking eachother all roy says in the vid is he wants 60 percent split bernard says 50 50. Thats what kept the fight from happening.

 

Omg when he fought Joe Joe was comin off beatin jeff lacy he had made a name for himself Bernard wasnt reignin the middleweight division anymore thats why he was able to take that fight cause he moved up to lhw and was free didnt have no ties to division his reign was over.

 

the thing with roy and mike is that they were so well known and so damn exciting they were always the favourite, until the end of their careers and even then people would still only give them hope because of their past glories.