Roy Jones and Mike Tyson, where should we really place them?

Hopkins was offered the rematch more than once you say 60/40 was a cop out ? It was the best offer he could have got up until the time he fought Oscar ..He wanted to challenge Jones for his belt in his division and had a loss to Jones yet he should call the shots ?? Jones made nooo money in the rematch I think its clear who really wanted the rematch back in the day .Actions speak louder than words ..But I guess he had better options since he couldn't get RJJ to agree to 50 50 around that time ..

 

Joe calzaghe didnt fight lacy and kessler till 06-07. Lol gees.

 

Closed mouths dont get fed Bernard went right on television and called him out bernard knew he had leverage and deserved 50 percent split for what he had done in middleweight division up to that point. When Roy got knocked out then yeah bernard didnt give two shits about him then cause he was done then when roy was down and out then he came criyn to hopkins for a rematch hell he even called upa radioshow bernard was on beggin for a shot and bernard gave it to him.

 

Like bernard said Roy was a wounded animal desperate him beating bernard would put him back in poundfor pound rankings and he knew that and bernard gave him a shot but Roy wouldnt give him one when they were both on equal field.

 

He apparently signed to fight Joe back around 02/03, then after consideration reneged on the deal.

"The contest has been six years in the making. Hopkins agreed to the fight in 2002, but then reneged on the deal, having asked for £6 million after originally accepting half that amount. In a 50/50 split, they are set to earn £4 million each."

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Again, he uses money as an excuse to back out of a big fight. Funny how he only took the fight when Joe was on top and Hopkins had nothing to lose. If Joe had done the same thing..my gawd..i can only imagine the chaos

 

Bernard Hopkins was tied to the 160 pound division he was bigger name at that time so ofcourse hes gonna ask for 60 percent your asking the guy to drop his middleweight title and go and fight at 168 against a guy who didnt make name for himself till 06-07. Bernard wasnt down and out when he faced calzaghe he was still very relivant. With the roy jones fight he felt him and roy were on level playin field so he demanded 50 50. Joe wasnt Roy.

 

Right and Jones countered with 6 mil more than what he had made up until that point ..Hopkins wasn’t even a ppv draw ..He deserved 50 really what because of his win over Trinidad ?

Really and he was challenging Jones at lt heavy ? He deserved what he was offered ..And Jones didn’t come crying for a rematch, Jones pulled his card on national radio but again Hopkins waited for Jones to get knocked out 3 times in order to agree to what ever terms were available .

If he was serious he would taken the fight when he was offered it and when it meant something.

He didn’t want his career derailed back then that’s why after Tito he took on :


Carl Daniels

Morrade Hakkar

William Joppy

and Robert Allen for the 30th time ..

Yeah I could see what made him such the draw where he would have deserved a 50 50 over a guy who was the champ two divisions north who also held a win over him ..Yes very justifiable ..

 

Oh yes im sure bernard knew Roy would get knocked out twice that was his grand scheme he had no interest in fightin roy after he was knocked out he wanted him when Roy was relivant in pound for pound rankings. In that case Roy was the one who wanted the 60 percent split thats what kept the fight from happening roy wouldnt do an even split.

 

The trinidad fight was huge and did great paperview and it boasted bernard in pound for pound rankings.

 

They were both on level playin field then Bernard was in his respective prime as well. Hell lets look at nowdays Floyd Mayweather jr does slightly better paperview numbers than manny pacquiao and had bin in bigger fights Longer Floyd agreed to 50 50 split with him. But yet Roy couldnt do that with Bernard who was a hall of famer and making history in middleweight diviison?Your on glue

 

Grand scheme really ..Like I said he was offered 6 mil after the Tito fight and before the Oscar fight .His only other deal that would have got him close was the deal that he reneged on with Calzaghe that would have paid him 4 mil .


60/40 against Jones would have got him more than anyone he could have fought at the time but like I said he didn't want his career derailed against Jones who he figured posed the biggest threat to him This is why Hopkins used Jones name to make other fights always citing Jones was too greedy but as you see in the Calzaghe deal he found a way to price himself out of the fight .

An even split will be the excuse Hopkins can take to the grave as to the excuse as to why he didn't fight Jones back then .But hey he got his revenge right .

 

How many times do i gotta say it when u have two hall of famerslike that come together its gonna be a 50 50 split. Roy wanted 60 40 for himself.

 

Bernard did get revenge Roy was in the gutter and he was still in big fights and still to this day is in pound for pound rankings and fighting lhw champ of the world. So i dont think hes too bothered lol

 

If that were the case them more fights would have been made ..It doesn’t always work out like that but one side always has to compromise.

Hopkins was the one that should have compromised considering the points I raised earlier ..

 

Course your gonna say that your in Roys corner. I think both guys deseved equal ammount. Roy was even making excuses sayin hes too big for bernard anyway lol Yeah roy wouldnt give him an even split he didnt want the fight. But bernard gave him the shot when he was down and out and needed it the risk for bernard was there the risk for roy jones wasnt Bernard even said why would i give u a shot take a look at pound for poudn rankigns your not there but Roy pleaded and Bernard gave him the damn shot that he didnt deserve.