Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver and Clinton Woods

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Aug 5, 2012.


  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was never a fan of Clinton Woods, but have felt a bit bad for him recently.
    Clinton Woods was a SMW in Britain who went up to LHW after losing to D Starie.

    Woods travelled to America to face Roy Jones, Antonio Tarver and Tavoris Cloud in his career and came up short each time.

    Clinton Woods, according to Boxing News, says Woods claims that testing barely existed in America when he was active.
    Woods was quoted in Boxing News as saying "
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    Now Woods was never a very top fighter but could fight on even terms with fighters like G Johnson, but obviously didnt like cheating and if he knew to question what he takes, its shocking that a superstar professional would just take an over the counter product.

    Do you now feel bad for Woods in that two of the three times he travelled to America the first two fighters fighters he faced have had question marks over their careers when it comes to taking something they perhaps shouldnt have at some point in their careers

    I do feel bad for Woods in that respect.
    Dont you?
     
  2. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    steroid use does seem particluar rife in american fighters but don't let it ever be mistaken, the likes of jones, tarver, mosley, peterson, holyfield, berto, toney etc know exactly what they are doing when they take these products and the sad truth is that these american fighters are perhaps only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the real truth about how many american fighters were cheating throughout the 90s and 2000s.

    with regards to woods, he was a very poor fighter tbf, he reminds me of glen johnson in many ways that he couldn't hack it in a superior 168 division and had to move to 175 to fight lesser competition to get a title.

    got to give woods credit though, despite his very poor skillset, he still won a world title and was prepared to travel abroad and fight as a clean athlete despite many of his cheating opponents training & fighting with the use of PED's because they had no conscience and were not happy testing themselves in the ring on a level playing field. Maybe its just part of the american culture where this kind of cheating is considered acceptable?
     
  3. Good post bailey. Although Woods was very limited, he fought with honour and courage.

    What I cannot fathom is why boxing fans continue to sweep drug cheating under the carpet. I have read so many laughable posts from delusional fans defending their heroes. "He didn´t know what he was taking", "It was part of an over-the-counter supplement", "It was his nutritionist´s fault" etc etc.. All of these pitiful excuses are seen on ESB on a regular basis.:patsch

    One thing I have noticed. Is it a coincidence that American boxers flounder when OSDT is in place, a la the Olympics??:think

    Thank goodness for Money May: the leading light on drug testing and the last bastion of American dignity.:deal
     
  4. On a side note, did you know that Clinton Woods ducked an exhibition match with ESB´s very own Anglosaxon?:deal
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Clinton Woods has a big pair of bollocks, and would fight anybody. He went to America in 2002 and fought a near peak version of Roy. He also went over and fought Tarver, and had three fights with Johnson.

    Meanwhile your boy Calzone was hiding in Wales, demanding the crown jewels, and telling everyone he wanted the big fights, but couldn't get them.

    Clinton deserves a huge amount of respect.

    Joe's just a complete joker!

    The end.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good post. I had a soft spot for Clinton Woods too. He was straight-up and the Hoye fihgt as a real thrill for me. If I remember rightly it was on the BBC?

    ****ing isn't on YT, disgraceful.
     
  7. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Excellent post

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  8. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is there any video Evidence of Roy Jones and Antonio Tarver taking steroids?

    If not, Shut the **** up son. :lol:
     
  9. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haha!
     
  11. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And how much was the purse Woods turned down for this matchup?
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    With steroid use, the best case scenario is one of gross negligence. The worst is one of deliberate cheating.

    Look at enzo, saying he wasn't aware, well it's his job to be aware. No excuse.

    That being said i'm a believer in innocent until proven guilty so like with toney, tarver, peterson, i'd strike off the fight they tested positive for but keep the rest of their career as it is. Maybe it's naive of me but that's how I see it.
     
  13. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:patsch
     
  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    maybe. i think part of it is that ideology of winning at all costs. the amount some of these athletes dedication is beyond fanatical and will inevitably overlap on whats not within the rules.


    the amount of american fighters and athletes who say prefer to have a bad win than a great loss is just an example of the mentality. it's not the fight it's the statistics.
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    ^ This ..He won't give it a rest :lol: