Roy Jones at 160 or 168 beats any boxer in history P4P

No, Nunn actually won his title by dethroning someone instead of winning it by beating a late replacement to win a vacant belt.

And it took him 8 months, not 8 years, before facing another world champion in his division.

And Kalambay was better than anyone Calzaghe ever beat.

 

Your an American then, yeah?

 

Or he isn't from England....the only place in the world who would disagree with Jones being better than Calzaghe.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:good

 

you actually believe that Joe Calzaghe is better than RJJ at 168 pounds when Roy was in his prime? Like do you honestly believe that?

 

Or Wales:yep

BTW, i'm Irish and I don't disagree with Jones being better than Calzaghe. What I disagree with is crap about fighting "elite" fighters in America.

You yourself have said many times that Jones was already at LH by the ime Calzaghe was a name. So how could that fight have happened?

Hopkins asked for 3 million dollars to fight Calzaghe in America. It was accepted. Then he doubled his asking price!! He then jumped not 1 but 2 divisions to fight the legendary Tarver.

What other elite fighters could Calzaghe have faced in America?

 

No. I simply hate shite talk about how America is full of elite fighters and how anyone who wants to be considered elite has to fight there.

 

In his weight class? He could have fought ANY of the other champions. That would have eliminated any doubt. He also could have moved up or down to fight someone else.

I thought you were disagreeing with Jones being better than Calzaghe, not the entirety of the post. My fault...:deal

Fighting elite fighters in the US isn't necessarily fighting elite American fighters BTW.

 

name me all of the elite fighters that Joe Calzaghe has faced. Jeff Lacy wasnt even an elite fighter IMO. All he had was a name at the time. But I will give you that one. Other than that name the elite fighters he fought. Cuz I dont know who they are:huh

 

If you are saying that RJJ at 160 beats anyone in history P4P you are wrong

If you are saying that RJJ beats anyone at 160 or 168 in his prime then you are right.

 

I never said he faced an elite fighter. I said, "who could he have fought during his 10 year reign as 168 champion that would make him elite".

There is only one person he's missing on his record and thats Ottke.

 

ok well let me ask you another ? then
Being as how you just admitted that he never really fought any elite fighters. And yet he is still undefeated. Do you think that his record is falsified, with basically hand picked opponents? and does he deserve all the praise he gets for having that WBO belt so long?

 

Muahahahahaha.

Get Em EB.

 

He could of yes. I agree with that. I would loved to of seen him go to Germany and pummel Ottke. That is the fight that would of shut up alot of people over the years. Now, he needs to fight Kessler. He can't retire without that fight imo.

As regards to fighting in America. I agree on that point also but he makes more money fighting in the U.K. He should of made Warren get him fights in America years ago. Even with his current record, had he of fought the American fighters in their hometown's, he;d look considerably better.

 

Original Poster said Pound for Pound Roy beats any boxer ever.

I must disagree.

Take a 135 pound Duran and make him 168 pounds and he destroys Jones.

Take a 147 pound version of Sugar Ray Robinson and he destroys Jones. Hell SRR at 147 had Jones' power and speed COMBINED with solid technique.

Take a 122 pound version of Henry Armstrong and he would pummel Jones much the way Glenn Johnson did, only faster.

And there are plenty more that I would give a fair shot at beating Jones as well.