Roy Jones....do you still rank him as highly?

The loses count; I guess RJJ's legacy has to be viewed the same as Evander Holyfield's. There's the prime Roy Jones, and the disconnected-from-reality Roy Jones. His reluctance to step it up caused his demise. Another undeniable fact is that Tarver was the wrong match for him when he was aging. If he had better fundamentals, Roy could have had as long productive career as Floyd can have too. Age takes away athleticism, but technique, preparation and experience can't be denied (see: Bernard).

 

Victories past your best count while losses dont, thats the position your in when your far past your prime.
Explain to me why jones losing hurts his legacy but it doesnt for duran and ali, this is my usual question on this topic but I never really get a real asnwer on it.

 

To me, Hopkins has surpassed Roy in terms of greatness/legacy...

Because I rank Roy still where I ranked him about 2005-2006, these last 5-6 years don't really count.
With Hopkins, I rank him higher and higher as long as he stays competitive with or even beats the worlds very best.

H2H, a prime Roy always beats a prime Hopkins tho.

Hopkins is the definition of an overachiever.

 

Leonard was embarrased at 36, Roy at 35 with a lucky punch which caused his downfall.
Leonard is still highly regarded tho

 

The thing with Jones is, his Chin is made of Wet Toilet Paper.

 

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**** yeah, he is one of the greatest of all time

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RJJ stayed way too long for his own good. He should have retired after he won the HW belt. If he did that, his ranking would be higher in a lot of people's eyes.

In his prime, he was near enough untouchable and we are talking about great and very good fighters who couldn't beat him. If you compare him to the fab 4, Hearns and SRL would have the best chance but he would KO Hearns in the later rounds and SRL would go either way. He would beat Hagler to a close UD and KO Duran.

 

I will die thinking and honestly believing he was one of the greatest fighters of all time. How history or so called boxing historians rank him is irrelevant to me. He wasnt a great fighter anymore at the end of his career, I accept that, but it has no bearing on anything he accomplished in his prime and at his best. Even great musicians make some horrible music when there best days are behind them, but their masterpieces remain untouchable. Roy has one of the greatest highlight reels in boxing history.

 

People talk the biggest pile of garbage about RJJ that they've all forgotten how amazing he really was in his peak. If he came back in his peak, he would literally steam roll over everyone from Middle to Cruiser. He would put a huge beatdown on old man Hopkins on the way through.....


Everybody Get on your feet
Right now for Roy Jones Jr.
The best pound for pund fighter in the world
Whoever don't agree you know what, I guess
Ya'll Must've Forgot
When they stole my gold medals in Seoul, Korea
That's lookin back at my whole career
Cause, Ya'll Must've Forgot
The best pound for pound is mine
Hit Percy Harris with 4 hooks at one time
Ya'll Must've Forgot
When I beat Bernard Hopkins and won the IBF
The right was hurt beat him with the left
Ya'll Must've Forgot
You remember the left hook James Tony got?
Sucker move I stole from a game ****
Ya'll Must've Forgot
Will there ever be another Roy Jones?, probly not
Stopped Virgil Hill with a body shot
Ya'll Must've Forgot
I got disqualified in March of 97
After giving a whooping to Montell Griffin
Late hit, my title, they had to take it
(Why) I guess that's the only way I could lose
5 months later, rematch, I needs my crown
1st round, 1 punch and he sat down
Don't get me mad cause I'm amped already
Took titles from fighters who was champs already
The heart and sould of boxing on HBO
What these other fighters take me for, A Joke?
Ya'll Must've Forgot
And they got the nerve to say I aint fight nobody
I just make'em look like nobody
Ya'll Must've Forgot
And David Telesco he really asked for it
So I beat him with a fractured wrist
Ya'll Must've Forgot
(Remember that)
In the ring I BOX, there is none higher
When I use these they call me SIRE
To burn my kingdome I must lose FIRE
And I wont stop Boxing till I retire
I'm Roy
Ya'll Must've Forgot (x2)
When I beat Reggie Johnson
And took his Light-Heavyweight title from him
Ya'll Must've Forgot
That I'm nice with these
Ya'll Must've Forgot
This is what I do
We could go on and on
Mike McCallum, Vinnie Pazienza
Ya'll Must've Forgot (x3)

 

Spot on. Stevie Wonder wrote some masterpieces in the 60s and 70s which influenced the majority of black R&B, Soul and Hip Hop artists of today. His 80s stuff was ok but crap in comparison. I mean, "Ebony and Ivory", f'in hell!!!

 

Against boston sanition engineers and new york traffic enforcers maybe...

Two different fighters pre and post JoJu juice...:scaredas:

 

roy jones style is not meant to last, but he is unbeatable in his prime.

 

Last time i checked, Bhop and Toney weren't janitors or part-timers? Your hate holds no bounds........

 

*It's funny..but u hear no one talking about Steroids... They ddin't call him Roid Jones for nothing.