Roy Jones ducked Steve Collins

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drinker, Jul 30, 2011.

  1. Drinker

    Drinker Guest

    Steve Collins was calling Roy out big time. A fight between the two could have been made easily.

    Calzaghe never ducked Steve Collins. Joe signed to fight Steve but Steve pulled out.

    Roy also ducked Nigel Benn.

    Roy clearly avoided the best.

    Who would have won if Roy had fought Steve or Nigel?
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Best Chin On ESB Full Member

    Feb 20, 2008
    Jones ducked a lot of people. With his fragile Glass Jaw I don't blame him.
  3. horst

    horst Guest

    "Calling people out" means nothing, it's mere words for TV cameras and the sake of appearance.

    Steve Collins got butt****ed by Sumbu Kalambay, Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson when he tried to mix it in the US market.

    He went home and picked off past-prime Eubank and shot Benn, making a shed-load of cash in the process and getting his hands on a world title belt.

    Should he go back over the pond and face the guy who trounced Reggie Johnson and an old McCallum?

    Or should he stay at home, making safe defences for decent money, against some of the ****tiest challengers ever...

    Cornelius Carr

    Neville Brown

    Frederic Sellier

    Craig Cummings

    This was what Collins was doing to try and force a fight with Jones? Please.

    Roy Jones fighting Steve Collins would've been like Usain Bolt racing Missy Elliot, it would have been a lightning-bolt against a parked tank. And Collins knew it. Better to stay at home fighting a shower of ****e than go back to the US and get outclassed - again.
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  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Obsessed with Boxing booted

    Dec 1, 2008
    Steve Collins is a guy whom Roy would have beaten easily enough.
  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Sep 5, 2010

  6. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

    Mar 5, 2011
    lies. :deal
  7. horst

    horst Guest

    He lost to all three and he deserved to lose all three fights.

    No wonder he didn't want to go back and mix it in the US market after he'd managed to grab some glory fighting past-prime names in the UK.

    Hence the reason he dredged up ****e like Brown, Carr, Sellier and Cummings to fight, easy hometown paydays.

    Not the behaviour of someone who was apparently dying to make a fight with the world p4p#1.

    When Ricky Hatton wanted to fight Floyd Mayweather, he went to the US, fought a fighter from Mayweather's division, beat him, took his title, and then chased the fight. He legitimized himself in that division in Floyd's home nation on American TV, and then chased the fight.

    That is how you make a fight. Not hiding in the UK fighting a mixture of shot names and complete ****ing dross.
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

    Jul 28, 2008
  9. DigMona

    DigMona Member Full Member

    Jun 8, 2011

    I think Jones would have beat Collins badly. In fact I've had to argue that point many times with morons who know nothing of Collins career before Eubank and most likely don't know a lot about Jones.

    That said, Collins would have fought Roy in a heartbeat. No doubt.
  10. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    Idiot Collins priced himself out. He'd have stood no chance against Jones.

    Benn was horrendously bad in his last five fights - no balance. Jones easily.
  11. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

    Mar 5, 2011

    & he was certainly not "butt-****ed" in any of those fights...
  12. Scar

    Scar Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Every once in a while a clueless drunken British fan(rarely as honest as you, Drinker) passes by with a thread similar to this. I highly recommend you watch the LIVE in-ring interview with Jones hosted by Jim Lampley with Ron Borges, Steve Farhood and some other guy asking the questions. They all asked about Benn and Collins, BOTH those fighters were offered career highest paydays officially confirmed by HBO and they all turned it down. Eubank wasn't offered a fight because he lost to Collins at the time and Collins was the logical(if you're not too drunk yet) pick.
  13. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 18, 2009
    Whats your obsession with this "US market", do you shop there?

    Have you even watched the johnson v collins fight? or the kalambay fight? (which was in italy)

    J.S: What are your memories of your fight with Steve Collins of Ireland?

    R.J: Oh, the great Steve Collins. That was one of my toughest fights. He is like Glen Johnson in that he was willing to fight anyone, and he's also a great guy. That fight was when I first became champion of the world [at middleweight].

    Reggie j interview, who was 26 when he fought collins, not 33 v jones

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    btw i think jones would have beaten collins handily in his prime but you talking crap
  14. johnnykoolkid

    johnnykoolkid Well-Known Member Full Member

    May 25, 2010
    i wouldn't say butt-****ed, he dropped decisions to the three you mentioned, but i wouldn't say he got demolished :patsch
  15. bailey

    bailey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 11, 2009
    Who would have won if Roy had fought Steve or Nigel?
    Prime SMW version of Benn would have beaten Jones
    S Collins got better as he went on in his career and seemed better at SMW than MW. At SMW Collins would have out toughed Jones.

    Still Roy ducked many top fighters for years, Michalczewski, Calzaghe, Erdei, Collins, Benn, Eubank, Tiozzo, Maske

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