Roy Jones Fall From Grace - Never Saw Anything Like It ..

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Has anyone interviewed, tweeted, or flat out asked him why on Earth he continued fighting? It obviously wasn't for money and he had nothing left to prove for his legacy so why...????
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Imagine if he had retired after the Ruiz fight!
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    That is just brutal!
     
  4. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always assumed there was some money issue... trouble with the IRS or a couple of paternity suits could soon drain his bank balance. Or he just blew all his millions. Can't think of any other reason he'd want to keep getting his ass kicked into his 40s.

    He'd be invincible in fantasy fights.
     
  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He definately should have quit after the Johnson fight.

    Still his body of work from 89 to 04 was awesome and his legacy secured.

    Look how badly Sugar Ray Robinson declined and fought far too long but nobody judges his career based on the bad losses aftet his prime. The same should be the case regarding Jones.
     
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  6. Jamal Perkins

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    There was another paragraph softening it...complimenting jones.

    ie "Still an ATG...incredible man....and my metaphor is,a gross exaggeration......a crude possibly offensive one....but its only way i can express how mind boggling it was to see him fight on so long and get knocked out so often after the way his attitude to the sport was in his very prime"



    ..im kinda quoted out of context...but yes it is brutal...and it saddens me...i felt horrible writing it..

    Its also sad these days people talk of jones as having a glass chin

    Man this guy was just invincible...for 15 long years you couldnt imagine him getting beat...

    The only other guys i"ve felt had that absolute aura of invincibility were Tyson...he went 4 years....obviously Floyd.......
     
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  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it didnt.

    Great fighters are judged on what they did in their prime.

    Jones held legitimate world titles for over 10 years.

    Loads of great fighters fought on way too long.

    Fighting on did delay the first ballot induction to the IBHOF that he should have had long ago though.
     
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  8. janitor

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    After the Johnson fight, I was genuinely afraid, that I had just seen Roy Jones killed on television!
     
  9. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is an exceptional piece of writing...
     
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  10. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Active Member Full Member

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    This is exactly why I feel bad for fighters who compete WAY beyond their time. Those of you who support Tyson and Holyfield comeback talks of recent vintage...I hope you're reading this...
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    I mean that's the simplest explanation but it doesn't add up. I'm no accountant or money expert but combine his PPV money with his music, acting, and HBO commentary checks and it doesn't make sense for him to be that broke an desperate. I don't recall seeing any articles or interviews indicating he was struggling financially or dealing with child support/alimony.

    It makes even LESS sense when you consider his horrible string of brutal losses and mediocre wins were against mediocre opponents--point being that he wouldn't have made much money embarrassing himself like that to begin with even if money was the issue.
     
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  12. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Don't feel too bad - at least a xxx-rated same-sex Roid Jones, Jr porn vid hasn't surfaced like with Yusaf Mack...yet.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Time's change. Primes are arbitrary. Nobody can agree on when someone's prime is.

    When Roy Jones beat Ruiz, very learned boxing people at the time were putting him #2 pound-for-pound all time.

    When he was getting wasted by Danny Green and Enzo, those conversations were long over.

    Boxers can definitely damage their reputations fighting too long, particularly among people who weren't following the sport at the time who can click a button and pull up an embarrassing blowout late in their careers just as easily as they can an early impressive win.

    We tend to rate older fighters based on their biggest wins and not their losses because of limited availability of their fights.

    Most of us have never seen the later losses of guys like Ray Robinson and Ezzard Charles, because they aren't readily avalable. But we can see all of Roy Jones' late career blowouts, and it doesn't help how he's viewed historically at all.

    When you can watch the greats get blitzed by nobodies, it definitely has an impact in how they are perceived all time. Just like not being able to see them at their worst definitely benefits how they are perceived.

    And that's definitely been the case with Roy Jones. The last 15 years of his career have been a complete train wreck. And we can watch every single crash.
     
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  14. steve1990

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    I think he wanted the Cinderella ending in his career which is why he kept fighting after Glen Johnson. Instead he just kept sinking futher and futher.
     
  15. Flash24

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    Most fighters stay around to long and end up losing to fighters they would've
    probably destroyed in their primes. Louis, Ali, Duran , Leonard etc.
    The list is endless, but they are generally judged by there work in
    their primes.
    So should R.Jones.