Roy Jones "Floyd needs to fight Prime fighters"

I'm a big Mayweather fan, but I disagree whole heartedly...

For Floyd to out-do Roy, he needs Mosely, Hatton AND Cotto (if he's still undefeated)

Thing is, if both retired right now, both are hall of famers and ATG'S... ALREADY! And you can take that to the bank... :deal

 

In shape Toney???? :nono :nono :nono

JT lost 44 pounds in the 6 weeks preceding their fight. That's not good for the body and doesnt produce the best conditioned fighter. If anything? Toney was drained from it and it appeared to show in his "performance"

None of that is RJJ's fault, to his credit he came in and did what he had to do. I would have loved to see a rematch where hopefully Toney could have come in right, but that's history and irrelevant now.

 

Roid Jones is full of ****!! He was fighting bus drivers, firemen, and cops! He has no right to speak that way of Floyd.

 

Dont take it personally, but the attitude you're proposing is BULL****!!!

If you cant respect results, then you're(the one's you speak of) are ****ing idiots and that perception will have NO WEIGHT or CREDIBILITY.
If PBF added another 4 or 5 wins to his resume vs Prime undefeated opponents, IT DAMN WELL MEANS SOMETHING:good

As for SSM?? If DLH meant anything?? Mosley means more he was the better of the two.

The idea of such perception that it wont mean anything?? IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN EXCUSE FOR PBF FANS in attempt to justify Floyd walking away without doing what REAL CHAMPIONS AND LEGENDS HAVE ALWAYS DONE!!! FIGHT THE BEST!!!!!

 

:roll:

This EXCUSE is SOOO overrated. Toney balloned up after every fight. So why was it ONLY the Roy fight that it affected him? He was 168 4 months before Roy, and 167 against Roy...

Hopkins and Toney is better than Castillo and Dela Hoya.

Moving up from Middleweight to Heavyweight is also better than Super featherweight to Light middlweight.

BUT - Floyd is 30, in his prime, in the best division in boxing at the moment, and coming off the biggest win of his career where he made in and around 20-30 million...

Pretty dumb time to retire, if your looking at legacy.

If your looking at money, great time to retire... Just leave out the name Roy Jones.

 

I make NO EXCUSE and dont justify anything. I merely pointed out that THAT WAS NOT AN IN SHAPE, PROPERLY COMDITIONED Toney.

You could say the same about almost every version of Toney since!!
If you read my post, I said, it's not RJJ's fault and he did what he needed to do.

If you see me as a proponent of PBF??

Read a few more of my post's:good

 

That's fair, although I think the "not properly conditioned Toney" thing is bull****...

Whether it is or not, beating Toney 11 rounds to 1 is better than beating an old Dela Hoya 7 rounds to 4 with 1 even. (I'm a Floyd fan, so not bagging him)

 

I would say that both Hopkins and Toney were better wins than floyd has dreamt of yet.

 

Glen Kelly is the aborigine... And no, he did have no job outside of boxing.

He certainly wasn't a world-beater, but he was the IBF mandatory. Undefeated. And had wins, as you said, over Sam Soliman and John Mugabi.

Was a Bruseless, Sosa type fighter. How Roy made him look is what he did to all fighters of that quality.

 

Only a hardcore Margosexual would say Margo is more exciting than RJJ.

 

Your comment wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to add something. I think that in comparing PBF and RJJ, you're leaving out the most important information. It's true Roy has the better resumè right now, but he also has the terrible ending to his career (he's currently trying to "fix" it with a comeback) while PBF is still at the top. Don't forget that Roy was on top of the world when he was called an excuse-making little ***** in the middle of the ring by Tarver, and then promptly ***** SLAPPED to the canvas in one of the most humiliating/memorable defeats in boxing history. Many great champs suffer KO's and it's a testament to their greatness and mental toughness that they are able to bounce back quickly and avenge their losses. Roy never recovered mentally, but instead, was crushed. An ATG would have immediately made the Tarver 3 fight, not go fight Glenn Johnson. A sure sign that he wasn't right mentally after getting pimp slapped by Tarver. Our suspicions of his mental defeat became actualized when we saw him inexplicably afraid to throw any punches against Glenn Johnson, and then get KO'ed again in a very sad and telling fight. Still fighting with his mental demons, he made the Tarver 3 fight, but couldn't bring himself to try to win. He couldn't recover from that first *****-slapping. Couldn't shake it from his mind. Not like an ATG would have. You'll notice he talked about "God" during this period of his career even more than he usually does, in desparation. Running to the fake daddy in the sky during a time of crisis, a sure sign of weakness! In the end, he was just a loser who cried in vain at night for "God" to win his fights for him, and it didn't happen.

As for Floyd, he can't be much of an ATG if he doesn't fight Cotto and whoever the next best 147 would be (Hatton? Williams?). At least he looks unbeatable for now (Cotto looks like the only one with any chance, imao) and has a perfect record.

The only argument you can make for RJJ over PBF is that PBF hasn't been tested well enough like Roy was, but when you consider how terribly RJJ failed his test, that's not much of an argument.

 

Couldn't really put it better myself, great post :good

 

Tell him, Roy - and spot on.

 

Same old dumb ass C money talking dumb ****..Hopkins was not the Hopkins of the past 5-7 years. He was a good solid fighter but no world beater. Toney was different. Toney was whooping ass. Thats a good win for ROY..but this is seriously the pot calling the kettle black. I mean Roy moved up to fight ruiz..floyd moved up to fight ODH...who is better Ruiz or delahoya. Castillo and Corrales were the Toneys and the hopkins of floyds weight class. And Floyd also beat the brakes off of Hernandez, and he beat the tough Jesus Chavez into submission. They both beat the same level of competition to me. But Roy fought more better fighters but he also lost more and devastatingly. Roy is beating up on hanshaws.and prince abudaboos now....But floyd needs 2 more fights against cotto and shane...Shane the sooner the better b/c you will not give him credit for that win either...You got that "shane was old ****" in your back pocket waiting to fling it out. And Floyd just needs to beat up Fatton just for general purpose. That is like an exhibition ass whoopin fight. That needs to go down...just for the UK.....

 

So margarito is coming off a loss....so that means if somebobdy beats him then it is meaningless. Since you said floyd beat judah coming off of a loss..For one thing you stupid animals need to realize that styles make fights. These guys are pros and have lost fights before. And in the case of Judah he comes back better from a loss most of the time..A loss dont mean **** unless your are undefeated and get your first loss..then you are a little confidence strucken..but once you bounce back..you been there..you know you can lose but you still train and fight. So that means a fighter should not fight a big fight after a loss even if they won a whole lot of good fights before that...that **** is stupid....people find anyway to discredit a win..But cottos win over judah was so impressive after 2 str8 losses..yeah right....I give cotto equal credit as I do floyd and do baldomir...You beat zab that is good. It takes skill and pressure and good timing to beat zab..any old run of the mill guy cant go in there and do it.....