Roy Jones "Floyd needs to fight Prime fighters"

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  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, beating John "the Squeeze" Ruiz was certainly impressive, let's all bow down to Roy Jones now. :roll:

    Let's overlook the fact that a fat, 37 year old James Toney handed that very same Ruiz a beating, and even managed to score a KD against him. Yes Toney was on roids, but he only had 6 weeks of training camp for the fight, which was a far more significant factor.

    As far as HW titlists go, Ruiz is a straight-up bum; beating De La Hoya was more impressive, considering Floyd started what, 5 divisions lower than 154?
     
  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Beating Delahoya was more impressive? I see beating Oscar barley at the tail end of his career is more impressive then Jones coming from middle weight all the way to heavy to win a world title ..You must also be impressed with the way heinz ketchup poors over hunts ketchup ..An as far as Toney doing the same thing against Ruiz ,here's a question how long after Jones beat him did Toney get a shot ?If anything Jones's win over Toney is ten times more impressive than anyone Floyd beat and thats a fact ..
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I'm not trying to **** on Roy, going HW and getting a win is an accomplishment, but Louise stinks always has and will. Toney did the same thing and it wasnt Roids(even though it tainted JT's win), it was skill for both RJJ and Toney that carried them over Jane Louise.

    I would agree that DLH even at the end is the better skilled fighter and would take that win over Ruiz. I cant stand PBF so I'm not trying to play favorite's. DLH is P4P the far better boxer/fighter out of DLH and Louise:yep

    BTW, Heinz taste's better!!!! SInce I'm from Pittsburgh and so is Heinz, you can say that's playing favorites:lol: , though I genuinely prefer the tast of Heinz:good
     
  4. Toopretty

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    Hey C(****)-(clown ass dash)money(broke-back)
    I talk slick ****...what the **** are you talking about you whining ****** ass clown ass pittsburgh residing ass clown.. I said that DC and JLC were the same level of comp for floyd to fight they were both top fighters just like JT Bhop was damned for sure not on that level yet. He was not as good as he was later. He was younger but not as skilled period. Floyd fought young in there prime fighters just as much as Roy..and won all of the fights..just like Roy..Both did the same **** at the same point in there careers you ****** ****..I aint no Roy hater...You were you ****** but all roy haters converted to Floydhaterism. And that is ****ing fact you pburgh SUPER KOON shut the **** up you fake ass Visicious Boxer probably looking like mother****er..lol You aint win ****...floyd aint fight in his prime fighters and I just named 3..Bhop was no ****ing legendary fighter when roy fought him, he was another prospect that was looking for his first belt....Castillo and Corrales didnt have the best defense..but damned for sure had the offense. So go figure... Dumb ass cornball.. ****ing pittsburgh dude trying to talk slick ****..I never .....:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  5. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, the Toney win (if we ignore Toney's highly publicized struggles to make weight) is, on paper, more impressive than any single win on Floyd's resume. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Roy has (or from my point of view, would have) the better resume.

    Take an example: Shane Mosley's win over a prime Oscar at 147 was more imrpessive than any one of PBF's wins as well, but according to a thread we just had a few days ago, people still think PBF's resume is significantly superior. I'm a big Mosley fan myself and I'd have to agree.

    So I stand by my original statement: if Floyd comes up big against another P4P level champion in his prime, I'll rank him above Roy Jones all time.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Calling Ruiz a bum is nothing new ..But if its that simple to beat a heavy coming from where Roy came i'm certain more boxers would have been able to do it ..And I whole heartidly disagree beating Oscar barely at this stage is not even close to impressive as fighting Ruiz at least we can say John was closer to being prime than Oscar !

    lol Heinz for me as well and I'm from Jersey :lol:

    Though I do agree that P4P wise Oscar is better than Ruiz but Oscar hasn't been P4P since his days at welter ..I think its more dangerous to be fighting a heavy weight than a blown up welter coming off a 1 yr layoff ..
     
  7. Toopretty

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    oscar was in the part of the best shape of his career that floyd fight..he looked good and had a good training camp..fighters like Oscar were worse fighters in there prime..he was A ONE HANDED FIGHTER HIS WHOLE PRIME as the years went on his right hand became good and well used.. He landed it on Floyd a few times..and Mayorga..
     
  8. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    You just got that good jerk, didnt ya?? Another hit from the pipe, and POOKIE's refreshed and ready to babble on some more:lol:

    Notice how you keep trying to **** on Pittsburgh?? yet another indication of limited ass mind. You judge an entire city on my posts:lol: Thank god Baltimore isnt completely full of crackhead ass punk's like yourself.

    Keep it up Pook, you're ramblings are entertaining and you're putting on a good show as the Craked Out Clown Prince of ESB.

    BTW?? You keep calling me a KOON?? How ****ing funny is that?? When I'm white and Koon(correctly spelled ****) is most often known as derogatory slang against blacks:yep You should at least being calling me a ******* ass cracka with your ******ed, racist ass , mentality. :lol:

    Someone get Hartley's number quick, I think we just found VB's opponent:D "Do you think he's playin wit U"???:lol: :lol: :lol: Go get em Pook:good
     
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    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I didnt mean it was a P4P win. i was just comparing P4P between DLH and Louise. Again, I didnt **** on Roy's accomplishment, I just believe DLH was the more skilled opponent and harder victory.
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Strike up another classic!! We're supposed to put more stock in PBF's win over DLH than SSM's Prime win???:lol: :lol: :lol:


    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    You just got 3 for 60, huh???
     
  11. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Nah this is Baltimore..and we dont like pittsburgh...But a fake bitchism like yourself wouldnt know that...And crack...you white crackheads reign supreme..You METH Head..lol..a duhhhhhh...a duhhh...i like goldfish....aduhhhh.. **** pittsburgh...And again this is baltimore...we call EVERYBODY KOONS.... and there is no proper way to spell a word that aint a word..dumb ****...that is pure slang....Im pooky ...lol then you are One of our EXTRA WHITE Herion fiends in south baltimore..Aint no crackheads no more..lol where the **** you been at...Its Heroin addicts in Bmore..get your drugs right..If was on heroin..my hands would be on too much of swole to type this ****..lol..You aint saying ****..You are getting your **** ****ed up by others then me..You Meth-head KOON....with a K..lol :hi::hi::hi:
     
  12. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Mother ****ing Meth-head vicious boxer looking mother****er..****ing tucked in Pittsburgh steeler jersey with tight ass jeans type KOON. :dead:dead:dead:admin:admin:admin:admin lool
     
  13. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Fights on..**** you ****-money.lol
     
  14. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    You take ******ed ***** to a whole new level.:good

    You know **** about boxing and all of you're illustrious statements prove it!! You are a true ***** and that shows in the nature of you're responses.

    You speak for all of Baltimore???:lol: :lol: :lol:


    :finger :finger :finger :finger

    You stupid, cracked out, racist, punk ass, ****ing ******. I'd have you serving you're **** and bringing me my $$$$$$$$:lol: :yep :yep :yep
     
  15. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ career is almost at an end. Unless he can pull off a couple of miracles and beat both Hopkins and the winner of Calzaghe-Kessler. Then he will jump up the p4p all time rankings. Highly unlikely though.

    Mayweather has it all to do. At the moment i'd have Jones ahead of him. But Mayweather has umpteen opponents left. Keep in mind, all the talk about how Mayweather has the physical attributes of Jones but he also brings the fundamentals, meaning he can fight way past his physical best. In that case, FMJ, could fight on for another 6-7 years. He may be beaten, but he has a chance to really shine and prove to us how good he is.

    Hatton, Mosley and Cotto are the 3 main fights for him. Beat all them and he's a legend. Then you have Williams, Cintron, Margarito, Malignaggi, Collazo etc etc, just to further boost his resume.

    It's there for the taking.