Roy Jones has to be the greatest fighter ever. Here's why..

The "25 lbs of muscle loss" number being thrown about are exaggerated.

 

he was on a PED that was on the banned list. he was taking illegal substances for performance enhancing purposes :deal

 

no man! you said pac!...ah ****....see..

don't say it a third time.

 

well, by definition PEDs have to enhance your performance. they serve a specific function. ripped fuel did not do that. therefore it's not a PED, nor was it on any list of banned PEDs. it was on a list banned for dangerous side effects. same reason that weed is banned; cause it's illegal, not cause it makes you fight like superman

 

it was on the banned list and roy took it to enhance his performance.

 

well, we'll have to disagree, i feel it was for weight loss, not performance. it's like sticking your finger down your throat, but a lot less gross.

 

What Jones lacks is wins against really great fighters and a great fight. Beating Ruiz was never a great accomplishment. I give Roy credit for being great on his abilities to control fights and win easily against guys formidable like Pazienza, and even Toney. The Virgil Hill fight he was losing by boxing, so he went to the body and surprised Virgil. Only a great could have done that. But Virgil was 11 years from winning the title when he fought Roy. Roy always fought them too early or too late.

 

no he wasnt the greatest cause he never fought the best in his prime. The most atheletic yes.. greatest no

 

lmao

 

i remeber when dickface saxon put that up..

needs to call himself delusional.

 

Roy didn't drop 25lbs of muscle. At the official weight in he came in a 193lbs and that was with his ****ing clothes on, and do you actually think he fought Tarver without cutting water weight the night before the fight? Probably NOT. Roy had to lose 15lbs max for Tarver.

(BTW I know unofficially he came in at 199 for Ruiz but that is UNOFFICIALLY, for all we know he stepped on a ****ing bathroom scale)

 

yup, 25 is pushing it. but regardless, even 15 would be 2 or 3 regular weight classes. how many middleweights have had success at 160 at then dropped down to 147 or 140 and beat the number one guy?

i still maintain, if it wasn't ruiz but lewis he beat and then retired, he'd be a top 10 all time lock. the tarver fight would have been icing on the cake that he didn't need but considering it was ****ing ruiz, he kinda had a bit to prove to himself

 

I'm sure he could have did it to that ***** haye.

 

i've got way more respect for ruiz than haye. that would have been a step down IMO

 

A middlweight dropping to welterweight is totally different because he's losing much more his actual body %. Archie Moore and Bob Foster were both able to move up to heavyweight, and back down and still be dominate champions at Light Heavy.