Roy Jones: I'll beat Floyd but Pac is a different animal...

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    you don't think that boxing fans should be upset by proven banned anabolic steroid users in a sport where opponents are putting their life on the line when they step in a ring?
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you can't put marquez there and say that roy would employ what marquez is doing. as what have some have already pointed out, pac is a southpaw with speed and power in both hands. floyd meanwhile is more conservative which would play into jone's style. i'm talking about the money floyd and not pbf at 130. but just the same, roy would still have an easier game plan than fighting version of pac at 140/147.
     
  3. Rudyard

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    So people are delusional because they dont share the same opinion as you?? :lol:

    You ***s never cease to amaze me!:rofl
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I love when middleweights think they can defeat super featherweights.
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Dude have you ever seen a Prime Roy Jones fight? Roy's foot speed and hand speed was faster than Manny and Pac's at their best and Roy moved around that ring constantly. :rofl You are a waste of time dude. You probably wasn't watching boxing back then anyways. :patsch
     
  6. HEADBANGER

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    no, they are delusional because they refuse to face the facts :deal
     
  7. Rudyard

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    As a poster said earlier...since you like to throw the word facts around, can you please provide actual facts instead of a bias opinion...Until then, you really dont have any room to talk!
     
  8. HEADBANGER

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    everything you need to know, you will find in general zods wonderfull thread titled "the day roy jones failed his drugs test"


    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365000[/url]
     
  9. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Roy was asked to take a test for his next fight and send it to Indiana and it was negative but you said he refused. :patsch

    Jacob Hall: “Both of them did. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. He was five or six times over an acceptable level. Hall was about ten times above an acceptable level. He didn’t mention that in his interview (the now infamous interview of July 18 with Bragging Rights Corner and Doghouse Boxing).
    A letter was sent to both (Jones and Hall). The Indiana Boxing Commission followed up – I talked to Jones’ people and said we were going to declare the fight a no-contest, suspend and fine him. And at that time, Jones’ attorney Fred Levin and the Indiana Attorney General’s office got involved.
    Indiana has no law on drug testing as probably the majority of the states in the U.S. do not. The drug testing company sent us the results. Most states that don’t have drug testing laws, the test results go back to the sanctioning bodies. I think most people are surprised at that. What do the sanctioning bodies do when they get positive test results? Suspend? Fine? They didn’t in this case. And there’s no way you’re going to know about it.
    Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. That’s not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.
    So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel.
    Whether that’s what he took or not we don’t know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.
    The IBF chose to do nothing. They wanted a second test to be done. But why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid? That’s where it ended.
    No action was taken. Nobody did anything.
    We couldn’t take action (because there is no drug testing law in the state of Indiana) but what we agreed to was before his next two fights, Roy Jones would submit the results to more drug tests to Indiana. One fight was in Louisiana and those results were negative. And the other was in California, and those results were negative.
    What surprised me about this is that the IBF chose not to do anything. And I have documents…what I’m saying, I can back-up. So I’m not concerned with that.
    Roy Jones’ people were very cooperative and very easy to work with to reach a settlement. Also, I did tell Roy Jones that there are some amateur boxing clubs here in Indiana and he did send a check in the amount of $250 for the Indianapolis PAL.”
    Boxinginsider.com: How many people have called you since the Richard Hall interview?
    Jacob Hall: “Brad Jacobs, now an advisor for Jones, and a reporter from some paper in France, and that was it. Brad Jacobs called to verify if the facts were true about Roy failing the test. He wasn’t involved with Roy Jones back in 2000. He just wanted to know what the facts were, like you.”


    Read more: [url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/flashback-when-roy-jones-tested-positive/#ixzz1p861JNQA[/url]
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, at least Jermain Taylor had the class to keep his mouth shut after ducking Vic Darchinyan's call-outs all throughout his reign.
     
  11. HEADBANGER

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    no i said roy was twice asked to take a 2nd test for the richard hall fight and he twice refused it. i never mentioned anything about his next fight.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    dude, marquez is troubling pacquiao not because of his speed. jones would be more puzzled with pac's style since he would come to pac and not box like what he did against ruiz. with floyd, he would have an easier time since floyd loves to back off and with his speed, jones could catch him. i'm arguing from a styles standpoint exclusively.
     
  13. mrjotatp4p

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    Once again you are assuming Floyd would be fighting in the pocket. If we are talking about Prime at their absolute best then Floyd's style would be much tougher in my opinion. As great as Roy is he didn't dominate Hopkins in their first fight like he did everyone else and Floyd has about the same if not better ring IQ and more athleticism than Hopkins ever had. Anyways it doesn't matter and is a waste of time. Its all just opinions and we will never know. By the way I know Marquez isn't beating Manny bc of his speed. Its his timing and skill set and movement. But you think Jones didn't give movement though and couldn't counterpunch.
     
  14. Rudyard

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    :lol: So now a banned over-the counter suppliment is some how a steriod now???

    Look, I'm all for busting a cheater, but my memory of this whole thing is that he took a banned SUPPLIMENT, not a steriod.



    The poster above pretty much sums up my feeling on the Jones situation.
     
  15. HEADBANGER

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    thats weak, your memory is obviously conducive with the selective memory of roy jones fanboys.

    indiana state were the 1st state to pilot anabolic steroid testing in america in the year 2000 ( to evaluate the costs involved and to assess the practicallity of introducing testing nation wide)

    testing was not introduced nation wide in america till the year 2002

    jacob hall who took the test stated that there was never any proof that roy took ripped fuel. that was line / excuse that roys attorney released 4 weeks after roy was found to have 6 times the normal level of testosterone in his body.

    jacob hall sent 2 requests for roy to have a 2nd test taken and roy jones ignored both requests.

    jacob hall wanted to take action but in 2000 anabolic steroid tests in boxing were not mandatory in fights that took place in america.

    there was no law in place at that time for indiana state to convict roy jones for the failed test