Roy Jones in his prime is the greatest ever

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  1. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    No, you posted up links from a journalists article on ****ing ESPN :patsch that is worth absolutely nothing. My links proved that Jones actually tested positive for banned anabolic steroids. There were no laws in place at the time to prosecute Jones. But he failed a drugs test for banned anabolic steroids, there is no evidence that it was andro. Where have those journalists you put so much faith in got their information from?
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    You do know knockout artist gets a notification every time Roy is mentioned right? It's ALL he talks about. Ask him about Jones vs Collins :rofl
     
  3. kmac

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    again, making up ****. anyone that's sees the previous posts know what i said and what a piece of **** you are. you and your buddies got completely owned in this thread by facts. if you're not making up things, you're either speculating or just completely wrong on whatever is being talked about.
     
  4. knockout artist

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    Indeed, we did see what you posted. When discussing how Robinson never got KO'd in some 200 fights, you insinuated that he was KO'd by Joey Maxim. The man collapsed from heat stroke. You are a joke, and what's more pathetic is you trying to gratify and console yourself by saying you 'humiliated us'. Yet anyone who reads through this thread will see that you got humiliated. Now the more you waste people's time, the more you will get embarrassed, why? Because you're defending an inexcusable position, let me ask you this question again, did Lennox Lewis 'KO' Oliver McCall? Because it says so on boxrec
     
  5. kmac

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    again, you just believe what you want to believe. it was reported on many sites that it was andro. obviously that's not good enough for you. i really don't know what else to say

    here's from the ibf website:
    http://assets.ibf-usba-boxing.com/File/IBF-USBABoutRules.pdf
    ANTI-DOPING:
    Specimens will be tested for the following drugs:
    Methadone Barbiturates D-Amphetamine
    Morphine Glutethimide Marijuana
    Meperidine Chlorpromazine Tetrahydrocannabinol
    Propoxyphene Codeine Anabolic Steroids
    Quinine Cocaine Pain Killers

    andro is listed as an anabolic steroid by wada, see page 2
    http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/W...ed-list/2012/WADA_Prohibited_List_2012_EN.pdf

    you believe that jones was on something else and that the boxing media is wrong in reporting what he tested positive for. this is fine but it doesn't make you right.
     
  6. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope.avi
     
  7. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    holy ****. i'll just let this post stand on it's own. if you don't understand that maxim goes down in the books as getting a ko win over robinson, i'm not sure what to tell you. same thing with lennox and mccall even though mccall cried his way out of the fight.
     
  8. knockout artist

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    What has any of this just proven? The facts are clear, Jones tested positive for banned anabolic steroids, I've provided proof of this. When asked to submit to a follow up test, to determine the substance, Jones refused. There weren't any laws in place at the time with which to prosecute him

    Because a media outlet report something, it doesn't make it an incontrovertible fact. You know this, so stop providing links from journalists, who have not provided any proof themselves. You're making yourself look even more ridiculous.



    If you don't understand the difference between someone having a heat stroke, and someone getting 'KO'd' then you really are more stupid than you appear. You tried it earlier, and MetalMandible completely shot you down and humiliated you, and then you were forced to backpeddle.

    Also, it's interesting to note that when I posted up a quote from Mackie Shiltstone stating that Roy weighed about 193 pounds, you chose to hide from it and refuse to acknowledge it. I guess it's because it didn't suit your agenda
     
  9. JASPER

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    I think the only guy who stood a chance against RJJ at the time he was fight was the guy he beat Toney. To bad Toney could never stay away from the buffet and was not as dedicated as Roy in the Gym.

    Roy was the goods but he is far from the best I have ever seen. top ten in my lifetime though
     
  10. kmac

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    so every time a fighter tests positive, we are not to believe what is reported? i guess because none of them have any proof? andro is considered an anabolic steriod by wada and the ibf. i've proved this above. also andro, at the time, was available over the counter. another fact. you choose not to believe what has been reported. this is what you're hanging on to.

    also you're saying jones refused another test which is not said anywhere. it just said there wasn't another one done. you're talking about prosecuting jones?? for what, taking something you and me could have bought at the store?
     
  11. kmac

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    goddamn, i posted a video of jones weighing 200 lbs proving that he wasn't 193 on fight night. i've countered every point you've written about. only duane ford thinks you're winning this argument.
     
  12. knockout artist

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    No, just no. Listen, there is no proof whatsoever that Jones tested positive for andro. I choose to believe what I have seen in interviews with those involved, and an actual ****ing letter to Jones stating he tested positive for 'anabolic steroid'. I choose to take what journalists report with a pinch of salt, because journalists often get their facts wrong. Anyone knows this.

    When a fighter tests positive for banned anabolic steroids, then their whole reputation suffers as a result. Look at Peterson, Berto and Tarver recently. Even Enzo Maccarenelli has as well, he's lost any respect he ever had from me.

    Jones should have been prosecuted and like Peterson, had his titles stripped, and the win over Hall changed to NC.

    We do not know how long Roy Jones was using steroids for, however, when you get caught you run the risk that much of what you have achieved will be compromised. Frank ****** stated a few years ago, that steroids cheats like Toney, Jones, Mosley and others shouldn't be inducted into the hall of fame. It simply cannot be excused, and the likes of yourself are a disgrace for even trying to do so :dead:dead:dead



    Tell me, why do you refuse to acknowledge what the official scales reported, but you're happy to accept what Roy Jones scale in his living room says? Do you not acknowledge that he is fully clothed in that video?

    The quote from Mackie Shilstone, and the quote from the bodybuilding article says it all. The evidence is there, once again, you choose to ignore it because it doesn't suit your agenda
     
  13. kmac

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    yes, the great frank ******. we should all live by his words. :lol: the disgrace here is you trying to slant the story to your liking. jones is mostly hated by the boxing media here in the US. if this was a real story, they would have been all over this, without question. the only time you hear about it now is on message boards from jones haters like yourself. jones took and passed many other tests in his career which you ignore as well along with the andro reports.
     
  14. kmac

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    why do you ignore the evidence from the video? they weighed before the fight too. jones was clothed at the official weigh in as well. merkerson and stone got in a fight at the weigh in and hit the scale

    link:
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2003-02-27-brawl-weigh-in_x.htm

    jones knew his weight wasn't right at the weigh in. but i'm sure you only saw what you wanted to.
     
  15. Dorfmeister

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    Thinking is good for brain cells stimulation. What did I say? With guys like Ray Robinson, Henry Amstrong, Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali and these guys come up with this. But don't make fun cause if you want some come and get some!!!