Roy Jones - In the ring interview, just prior to the Brannon fight.

Yes, Don's promoted Roy a few times over the years. But Roy and his handlers - the Levin brothers, weren't willing to give him any options back in the mid 90's.

 

Not at all.

Roy and Stan Levin both said in 1995, that King wanted options and they didn't want to sign with him. On the few occasions that Roy did work with King, it was obviously under Roy's terms, or terms that he was happy with. Roy has always been very wary of him.

 

According to Roy and Stan Levin, King wanted future options on Roy, and Roy wouldn't agree to it.

Like I've mentioned, the terms were obviously different when Roy did end up working with him.

Roy's circumstances in 2003, weren't the same as what they'd been in 1995.

The offers that are mentioned in this video were obviously on Roy's terms.

Here's a quote from Roy, regarding King - "You have to be very careful when dealing with Don. He can make you a lot of money, but he can also take away a lot of money."

 

BatTheMan,

I don't brag about having sources. General Zod is the man when it comes to links etc.

Why do you need to see a source?

Ha! It's obvious.

In 1995, Don King wanted future options and Roy said no.

So when he made these offers to Benn and Liles in 1996, they were obviously one fight deals, on Roy's terms and not solely on Don's. You don't need a source for that.

Likewise, when Roy ended up working with Don, he must have been happy with the terms and conditions, or they must have come to an agreement. Again, that's obvious, otherwise Roy wouldn't have worked with him would he?

 

BatTheMan,

I've posted a lot of links. I wouldn't say that I brag, but I've said a few times that my opinions are based on logic with examples given, and hard facts can be backed up.

It wasn't a cornerstone, I just said that Benn and Liles fights were hard to make.

I haven't got any exact details to hand.

But HBO backed Roy in this video, which they certainly wouldn't have done if it wasn't legit, and Liles' manager walked when Liles wanted more money at the last minute, with the fight on the table.

I can get you Zod's original link for that.

I'll have a look for you.

But I would also like more information with regards to all of the offers mentioned in this video.

But if there's none to hand, I'll still be satisfied.

Because it proves that Roy wasn't the ducker that everyone thought he was.

With regards to Ruiz, I agree that Ruiz was less risk for a higher reward. But I know that Roy would never have given King future options. He used to pride himself on the fact that he was his own man.

Again, working with King in 2003, had nothing to do with what had happened in 1995.

It was all dependent on what Roy's circumstances were at each point in time.

 

I'd love him to retire.