Roy Jones interviewed by Australian

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kel, May 12, 2008.


  1. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,753
    1,719
    Aug 22, 2004
    I know you're just taking the **** and trying to get a reaction with that one! :D

    Ray Robinson
    Willie Pep
    Roberto Duran
    Henry Armstrong etc etc.
     
  2. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

    9,247
    2
    Feb 19, 2005
    Duran better head 2 head than Jones Jr.... Please. As for the others, they were good fighters for there era mate.... I'll give them that much hahaha....
     
  3. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

    9,247
    2
    Feb 19, 2005
    The same Roy that stopped Virgil Hill... The same Roy that totally embarrassed Hall and Gonzalez... The same Roy who totally outclassed Johnson. Nah... Maybe the version of Roy now, or the one that fought against the road warrior. Thats about it though!!
     
  4. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,753
    1,719
    Aug 22, 2004
    Absolutely. Ken Buchanan (43-1), Esteban De Jesus (41-0) and (51-3) at 135lbs, Sugar Ray Leonard at 147lbs, Pipino Cuevas, Davey Moore at Lgt Middle, a close loss to Marvin Hagler at Middle, before beating Iran Barkley at 38 years of age.

    That's a lot of Julio Gonzalez' in there. Even more Rick Frazier's.
     
  5. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

    9,247
    2
    Feb 19, 2005
    Jones victories over future HOF's Hill, Hopkins and Toney were FAR more decisive. Barkley would have been creamed by Jones, even worse then what Toney did. I notice you didn't mention Duran's brutal stoppage loss at the hands of Hearns either, or his humiliating "No Mas" loss to Leonard!!! Sure, he lost to great fighters, and he WAS a great fighter. But your comparing him to a guy who was literally untouchable. Head 2 Head even in his prime at 135, i have Whitaker beating him by a clear UD.
     
  6. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,753
    1,719
    Aug 22, 2004
    Losing to Leonard (not making excuses, that's what drugs do to you) and Hearns like that are far more impressive in my eyes then a lot of Jones' victories. Hopkins was very untested when he fought Jones, luckily for his resume he blossmed into a great. Toney is a good win. If you're talking pound for pound, Duran shits all over Roy. He started at 130lbs and won a title at Middleweight! That would be the same as Amir Khan doing it now. Unbelievable.

    Jones was literally untouchable for a while, but his level of competition is pretty ordinary. There were a lot of fights at 160lbs that would've turned him in to the upper echelon of all time greats, p4p.

    I noticed you didn't take the bait with the roids call either :) ... *****. :)
     
  7. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

    9,247
    2
    Feb 19, 2005
    hahahaha... Resume wise you could make a case for Duran, although its pretty close. The way Jones dominated his opposition scores big points for me personally. I think Jones winning a title at heavyweight is equally as impressive as Duran at middle. Oscar in recent times has equalled this feat of Durans, where as Roy was the first fighter in history (from memory) to ever go from middle to heavy. Both extraordinary accomplishments. As for your comments at 160, Jones wasn't there long due to weight, and in reality was quite green. It would have been silly to throw him to the wolves so early in his career... It would be like putting Cotto in against Tszyu when Cotto first took the title. It just wouldn't happen.
     
  8. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

    15,472
    0
    Jul 31, 2004
    I think their resumes are pretty much similiar.

    RJJ vs Foster, Moorer and Spinks - I would love to believe these 3 blokes would check Jones chin but in his prime he was something special. Too close to call
     
  9. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

    9,247
    2
    Feb 19, 2005
    Good post, would be some great fights for sure...
     
  10. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,666
    11,765
    Feb 27, 2006
    Jones was special but he fought his share of mailmen , Durans biggest problem was keeping focused between fights hence his weight issues .
     
  11. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

    1,286
    1
    Oct 7, 2006
    Simple fact is that Roy Jones in his prime was an absolute freak, completely dominating the best of his era with class and brilliance.

    Until Roy dropped back from heavyweight he was unbeatable, which can't be said about any other fighter mentioned. How high he could have risen is unknown because he was never fully tested, even though some of his opponents have gone on to be champions themselves.

    I'd back Roy Jones against any figher from middle to light heavy in the history of the sport and then some.....
     
  12. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,666
    11,765
    Feb 27, 2006
    I sometimes wonder how the likes of Moore and Foster would have gone against John Ruiz ? i even think the toy bulldog would given Ruiz a good run for his money .
     
  13. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

    1,286
    1
    Oct 7, 2006
    Roy went into that fight with one plan...to win.

    For a middleweight staring at a chance to become heavyweight champion of the world, it was not a night to put on a show. He was very cautious and took no chances, just doing enough to win the rounds. Had he gone in against Ruiz with a heavyweight title to his credit I believe you would have seen a completely different event.

    That's my opinion anyway.
     
  14. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,666
    11,765
    Feb 27, 2006
    Desite you acting like a **** most of the time i suspect you know your **** so indluge me for a minute lol ,how do you see Moore , Foster & Walker going against the likes of Ruiz today ? seriously im intrested in you take on this subject , ( infact i wou be intrested to here anyone on here's take on this matter ) ..
     
  15. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,753
    1,719
    Aug 22, 2004
    Archie Moore and Bob Foster would have whipped John Ruiz, are we serious??! It wouldn't even be close. I certainly appreciate Roy's accomplishments, but in the scheme of things, he beat a Heavyweight contender. Ruiz wasn't the man in the division. This doesn't take any gloss off his win, but he won a belt, he wasn't the champion.