ROY JONES JR - how would his heavyweight career have went 2003-?

Along with Holyfield, Tyson and Golota is as far as he would get. He may have beaten a shell shocked Wladimir.

 

Well out of that list he gets knocked out by:

Lennox

Both Klitschko's (Wlad has a bad Chin but Roy's is much worse)

He already has schooled Toney and would have done it again

Byrd would have TKOed him

Tua would have put him in a coma

Brewster would have brutally KOed him

Golota would lose a fight he was winning

Sanders would have shattered that Glass Jaw

Rahman who knows his Chin is Glass also

Jones probably would have outlasted old Tyson and Holyfield but who knows if either lands flush on that Glass Jaw anything could happen.

All in all there was a reason Glass Jaw Roy handpicked Ruiz then left the Division. At least James Toney moved up and stayed in the Heavyweight Division not run back to Light Heavyweight and get brutally KOed twice.

 

I think RJJ would have only beaten Byrd and Holyfield and Ruiz. Everyone else would've had him looking like Glenn Johnson did.

 

You're right, his chin wasn't an issue until he dropped the weight... People act as if it was something he had all along, which if he did Ruiz would have knocked him out in the first round with that pretty big right hand that Jones got hit flush with.

At that time I would favor Jones over everyone on that list except the Klits, obviously Lennox, Tua, and Sanders...

I would favor Jones to outpoint Tyson as well.

 

You're totally wrong yet again....This was before he dropped the weight, no one even thought about a glass jaw. At this point they only saw him take Ruiz's shots and not get effected or hurt in any way, and go on to dominated the man in a fight that some of those guys had already lost to or would in the future.... So in your predictions you can't assume everyone knew he had a glass jaw, doesn't make any sense.

 

I would've picked Jones to beat the smaller heavyweights like Byrd, Toney, Tyson and Holyfield. Think he could've outsmarted and outboxed Tua, Rahman and Brewster. I give him a good chance against Wladimor but the rest of the taller heavyweights Lewis, Sanders and Vitali I think would've been to tall, rangy and hit too hard for Jones to win.

 

good lord nuthugger how did I know you would respond? atsch

Jones HANDPICKED Ruiz because of his deplorable KO rate in the 4 years preceding that bout. Jones has a Glass Jaw and has always had a Glass Jaw. And that "flush" shot from Ruiz you always talk about? :roflatsch It landed on his upper chest not his Glass Jaw. Ruiz has a horrible KO rate and that is why Jones handpicked the fight. I will quote Floyd Mayweather Sr. on this topic (paraphrased) "Once Roy started getting hit on the Chin he also started getting knocked out".

:dance

 

i think could take toney(we saw this so we knew he could) byrd(due to birds smaller size basically he was a poor mans RJJ) also i think he could take golota and rahaman and brewster if he could stay away from the power and holyfield at this point..and also MAYBE would be able to take tyson as tyson was on the downhill

 

well considering after the ruiz fight......there was talk about...

tyson/rjj....megafight......

if ....and its a big if......rjj got pass the 5th he'd might win.....


he knows....uno...ino....we kno.....if he would get hit by the power of tyson...it would of been a wrap....which would of likely happened...

tyson even at the stage was faster than all the heavyies.....


there was talk about 50 million per fighter.....

but the fight didnt happen......

so we will debate his thru out history..


he'd beat byrd and .....and maybe some of the less athleticly gifted heavies.....

who knos......

imo.....

 

Roy MIGHT have been able to beat early Wladimir, before he turned his jab into a killer defensive weapon.

 

WBC Champion - Lennox Lewis - Lewis was to big and powerful for Jones. I see this as a brutal massacre Lewis owning Roy with that long jab and brutally KOing him with a right hand in the 4th.
WBO Champion - Wladimir Klitschko - Wlad would do basically what Lewis would do just Roy may have a better chance considering the level that Wlad was at back then. Wlad has poor defense,stamina and his chin was pathetic. Id give Roy a chance if he could last past 5 to wear Wlad down with some body shots and maybe get a stoppage. However 9 times out of 10 Wlad KOs him early.
IBF Champion - Chris Byrd - Byrd was quick and had fantastic defense but Roy even at Heavyweight had heavy hands and would probablly outwork Byrd to a somewhat close decision like 116-112.
Vitali Klitschko - Same with Lewis and Wlad hes just way to big,strong and powerful for Roy Jones he finishes him around the 4th or 5th.
James Toney - All that really needs to be said is their first fight. Roy shut him out,dropped him and made him look like a complete piece of crap as a fighter. Weight wouldnt make much or atleast that much of a difference. RJJ UD agian.
Mike Tyson - At that point id actually go with Roy. Tysons speed had dimished big time he only had stamina for about 3 rounds maybe even less plus he was injury prone. As long as Roy can use his legs and play a real low risk fighting style for a couple he will tire and fustrate Tyson. I see Roy just pot shoting right hands for the most part and occasionally ripping Tyson with 3-4 punch combos before Mike quits on his stool after 8.
Evander Holyfield - Roy would outwork him and outland at atleast 3-1 rate and easily win a UD.
Hasim Rahman - Rahman would always be dangerous with his powerful right hand but I believe Roy is superior in almost every other way. Roy would do something similar to the Ruiz fight but quite possible stop Rahman late.
Corrie Sanders - Sanders could murder him inside 2 rounds but like many on this list he goes to **** after that. Its simple if Roy survives the storm he goes on to win this fight and handily.
Lamon Brewster - Roy should outbox him because Brewster has no real boxing ability. Thing is Brewster is a man who throws punches with conviction all the way to the end. Id give Brewster a very good chance to take Roys head off with a left hook but id lean towards Roy UD.
David Tua - See Lamon Brewster.
Andrew Golota - Golota has never won a big fight and I cant even see him winning agianst the much smaller Jones. I see him finding a way to give away several rounds and loses a decision if he doesnt quit before then.

 

I don't understand the scores against Ruiz, 116-112? It wasn't even close, I'm assuming all of you have seen the fight and are aware of this. I thought it was 118-110 and I couln't see it being more towards Ruiz.

Anyway Jones would have beaten Byrd, Rachman and Toney for sure, easy decisions. I favour Roy over Sanders and Brewster but they have a punchers chance for sure, glass jaw or not I couldn't see Roy absorbing a clean shot from either but I also don't think they would have gotten a clean shot. Tua, Holyfeild and Tyson are all 50/50 for me. Holy and Tyson were older at this point and on the decline, if they could fight like their old selves for one night the fight is theirs. If Tua came in overweight he simply has no chance, Roy would box circles around him, if he came in fit his punches would wear Roy down landed or not. Lewis and the Klitschkos are too big, they wouldn't let Roy in often and even if they did, Roy wouldn't have the power to capitalize. He also could not sustain their weight during the clinches. As for Golota I simply have no idea, he fights so tall I don't see Roy getting near him but he's also too slow to catch Roy, it would be boring and we would all lose for seeing it unless Andrew went crazy again.

 

116-112 was a disgrace. I gave Ruiz that late round that Roy gave to him.