ROY JONES JR or PERNELL WHITAKER

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  1. DINAMITA

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    They ARE the top two since the Fab Four.

    PERNELL WHITAKER

    In his prime:
    From- FEB 1989 (win over Greg Haughen)
    To- NOVEMBER 1995 (win over Jake Rodriguez, just before the Rivera fights)

    Absolute Peak: May 1990 v Azumah Nelson?

    Record: 40-4-1 (17)

    Titles: WBC/WBA/IBF lightweight, IBF light-welter, WBC welter, WBA light-middle, The Ring Fighter of the Year 1989, Pound For Pound#1

    Best names on Resume: Haughen, Ramirez, Nelson, McGirt, Chavez?, Vasquez


    ROY JONES JR

    In his prime:
    From- MAY 1993 (win over Bernard Hopkins)
    To- MAY 2003 (win over John Ruiz)

    Absolute Peak: November 1994 v James Toney or August 1997 rematch v Montell Griffin

    Record: 52-4 (38)

    Titles: IBF middleweight, IBF supermiddleweight, WBC/WBA/IBF light heavy, WBA heavy, The Ring LHW Champion, The Ring Fighter of the Year 1994, Pound for Pound#1

    Best names on Resume: Hopkins, Toney, Virgil Hill, Mike McCallum, Montell Griffin, Antonio Tarver




    Who was better pound-for-pound????
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 22, 2008
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  2. teeto

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    If you would have asked me bit ago i would have said Jones, but im really starting to sway towards Pernell
     
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  3. teeto

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    Oh, and Pacfan, PLEASE remove the question-mark from next to Chavez' name in your post!!
     
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  4. TommyV

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    No contest.
     
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  5. Robbi

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    I would give Whitaker a three year prime. 1989-1991. The Nelson fight probably was his peak.
     
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  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No contest. Pernell.
     
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  7. Robbi

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    Agreed. :good
     
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  8. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whitaker
     
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  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coffee anyone...?
     
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  10. Club Fighter

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    Very difficult but I wanna say Sweet Pea but whenever I see Jones v Hill I wanna give Jones the nod.
     
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  11. pryorgatti

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    Sweet Pea
     
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  12. Robbi

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    Two sugar and milk, please.
     
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  13. teeto

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    Robbi and Stonehands, i dont get it, what's the deal? You guys have an ongoing debate on Pernell-Duran or something? Sorry 2 be nosey!!!
     
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  14. Robbi

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    Stonehands reckons Whitaker would box the ears off Duran and win a decision. Even though Whitaker never had the power, his skills make up for what he lacks in pop to somewhat tame Duran. I disagree.
     
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  15. teeto

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    Im being put on the spot on Duran-Whitaker? I have dreaded this day since i became a boxing fan!

    The style seems to be bad for Duran, greatness on the outside, but you are right on the power issue, it was always stiff (at least) combined with boxing skills that made the trouble for him. Imo though Whitaker has underated power, i wont say he hit hard, but i think he could fight and hold his own aswell as box. Anyway, the issue i would like to bring up in Duran's favour is that Whitaker a lot of the time was 'in the pocket', and defensively brilliant with reflexes and slickness. As immense as he was in that department, i dont see anybody beating Duran on the inside at 135.

    I really dont know though, as Whitaker may not neccessarily be on the inside completely, and would definitely pick up poiints on the outside.

    I must make a pick, and i will pick my man, on the strengths that you pointd out, and that i think Whitaker would be spending time in the pocket with the best pocket man ever.
     
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