Roy Jones Jr. Top 100 ATG?

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  1. PH|LLA

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  2. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather smokes Calzaghe P4P.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As of 2006 Mayweather has lacked the offensive arsenal of Calzaghe. His defence doesn't make up for inferior combinations and a lower workrate.

    Mayweather at 135 is closer, but Calzaghe still has the edge due to his versatility.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No because PBF has had to reign in his offense due to moving up in weight fighting larger men. Calzaghe has not, and therefore hasn't shown the ability to beat larger men. If anything, PBF has shown more versatility by being able to adjust his gameplan.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, in my twisted pro-Calzaghe definition of P4P 154/147 Mayweather is inferior to 135 Mayweather and perhaps outside the top 5 literal P4P fighters in the world.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fortunately, we don't use systems that are pro any fighter. But I applaud your honesty.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is just a coincidence it is pro-Calzaghe mate.

    It is important we use the strict definitions. You can possibly argue that Mayweather would top a list of the fighters with the most abundant abilities. But P4P, impossible!
     
  8. RUSKULL

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    Easily, without blinking I'd put him in the top 25 ATG P4P whether you like him perosnally or not - period. Maybe quite a bit higher depending on the day you ask me.......................
     
  9. kg0208

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    Yes, but it is also important that strict definitions apply for everyone.

    P4P means who would win at any weight IMO. PBF is that fighter currently. The fact that he has shown that he can adjust at different weights only helps his cause.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

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    This one is coming down to the wire! Only 134 more votes for "No he is not" are we are dead even!
     
  11. Smazz20

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    He has to be. I sincerley doubt any SANE boxing fan could pick 100 fighters who were better than Jones.
     
  12. China_hand_Joe

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    I don't rate democracy too much.

    Sure it prevents Eric Crumble being P4P #1, but it also stopped Joe Calzaghe becoming #1. Simply democracy doesn't work. We just have to take the strict definition irregardless of what 99.99% of other people think.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That doesn't mean the inverse is true. We shouldn't take what the .01 % believe is true either.

    You seem to be deciding an answer, then defining a system that supports your answer.
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

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    It is just as well I am a prophet, the embodyment of elightenment, the seer of puglistic endeavours.
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

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    Robin Reid and David Starie are legends who would easily beat Jermain Taylor.