Roy Jones Jr. vs. Bob Foster at Heavyweight

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  1. Loewe

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    If you take out McCallum none of them is even near the class of Foster and McCallum was something like 100years when Jones fought him. I´m pretty sure Foster knows how to use his reach advantage, jab and good timing to beat Jones.
     
  2. Senya13

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    What class? Where was his class against Doug Jones, Mauro Mina, Ernie Terrell, Zora Folley? He could look good against ancient Dick Tiger (as ancient as McCallum) and against mediocrities during his reign, but his class disappeared whenever his advantage in size was neutralized one way or another. He was slow, clumsy, predictable, lacked footwork, lacked quality in both defensive and offensive skills (they were only average).
     
  3. Loewe

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    Okay. You disqulified yourself in this discussion. Talking about one of the greatest lhws to have no class. At least he faced the best at his weight and hw, not like a certain fighter.
     
  4. Senya13

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    His reign at light heavyweight was much poorer than Jones' reign at the same weight. When did Foster face Galindez or Conteh? Faced the best, yeah, right!
     
  5. Loewe

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    When did Jones face DM?
     
  6. Senya13

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    Did I make claim that "RJJ had met all best fighters at his weight" anywhere?
     
  7. Loewe

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    Nah, but if you talking about Foster not meeting the best of his day, well, that game can be played the other way round also. Btw. facing Frazier and Ali excuses him a little bit don´t you think? Oh, and Foster´s more proven on hw than Jones but i don´t think that this is that important here since both did their best work at lhw.
     
  8. fists of fury

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    Not really. He lost every time he stepped up. We can look at the competition, but a fact's a fact.
     
  9. OBCboxer

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    No, when did DM fight Jones? Jones was the bigger star at the time and DM should have come to America.
     
  10. Loewe

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    He wasn´t a bigger star over here. Actually the casual fan don´t even know Jones. That´s also an absolute no argument. If Jones would have wanted to prove himself against the best and build a legacy than he would have come over here. Look at past greats, they proved they could beat their opponents also on their home turf.
     
  11. Ezzard

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    Agreed, if people are going to throw around a top 20 p4p place (ludicrous IMO) then the guy getting it has the responsibility to make the fights happen. He didn't. What else is there to say?
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    You outta be ashamed Senya :lol:
     
  13. Senya13

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    He was all that. Slow. Clumsy (understandable due to his build). And he didn't have anything beside a jab, the rest was average.
     
  14. Ezzard

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    Just an average guy who was head and shoulders above all of the other average guys.

    No quality in his offensive skills... So predictable opponents couldn't see the killer punch coming.

    Couldn't carry Glen Johnson's ...
     
  15. Senya13

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    When I see fighters like Ross, Robinson, Gavilan, Giardello, etc, several seconds of the film are enough to realize how special their skills are. When I see Foster, many fights are not enough to find anything special about him skillwise, other than his jab. Size, power and jab can get you pretty far, but take one or two of these assets away (for example, when Foster was facing bigger guys than himself, who were far from great) and he's average at best, due to his fragile chin he's even below average. I think almost any heavyweight champion in history would put him away without much problem.